Who Originated This Card Routine?

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Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Steve Vaught » July 28th, 2018, 5:33 pm

I don't know who I learned this from but here's the effect:

1. Card is selected and lost in the deck.
2. Volunteer freely selects four indifferent cards.
3. Volunteer eliminates all indifferent cards out of the four except for one.
4. Volunteer names the card selected, magician does his magic over the single card...it's the selected card.

The sleights: a. control / b. dl / c. equivoque

Again, hoping to find if this routine is in a book somewhere.
Thanks for your response.

Steve Vaught (the other one)

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Philippe Billot » July 29th, 2018, 3:35 am

See Royal Road to Card Magic (1948) by Hugard and Braue but I don't think there is a creator because there is the same trick but with three cards in 1853 in Nouvelle Magie Blanche dévoilée by J.N. Ponsin.

These two tricks used a psychological force.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby performer » July 29th, 2018, 8:27 am

I was tempted yesterday to say that sounds like a very boring trick but I held my tongue. But today when I read it I just realised that I think I have been doing it all my life! Mention of the Royal Road to Card Magic made me realise it. Alas if this is so then the description sounds a bit skewed!

The volunteer selects ONE card rather than four! (ah yes, I see that you already said that) The MAGICIAN removes four cards, shows each one to be different then asks the spectator to select one and that one changes by magic to the correct card. I first learned it in "Expert Card Technique" where it was known as "Hocus Pocus Card" then later I came across it again in the Royal Road. At one time it was my strongest card trick until over time I added even stronger tricks.

Later I evolved to doing the trick with five cards instead of four. I am doing the trick as part of this interview. The card trick starts at two minutes in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QktEi37NBaA

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby performer » July 29th, 2018, 9:23 am

Incidentally in the Royal Road it is entitled "Now You See It"

Since I am in a generous mood I shall detail my annotated description of the trick. I have mentioned previously that I am annotating the Royal Road to Card Magic. Make the most of this sample annotation:
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At one time this was my strongest trick. I used to get fantastic reactions from doing it exactly as described above. Later I added other tricks to my repertoire which produced a similar reaction so this one did not get quite as much attention as before. However, it still remains one of my favourite tricks. I believe the method and presentation above is ideal in a quieter atmosphere where you can take your time putting cards behind your back and having the spectator shuffle. However, as I started to perform in more venues where attention spans were shorter I worked out a faster paced version and also added an extra card so the trick could be done with five cards rather than four.
I have decided to give you here the full details on the routine I am doing today at trade shows and other venues. This trick has stood me in good stead over the decades.
First you have to secretly note the bottom card of the deck. This will be used as a key card as described in the preceding chapter. You start by springing the cards from hand to hand as described in the chapter on flourishes (Chapter three). As you do this you say, “I am going to run the cards from one to the other just like this and I’d like you to call out stop whenever you please. And we’ll use the card you stopped me at. Are you ready?” When he replies “Yes” you spring the cards again, telling him to stop whenever he pleases. However, you spring the cards so fast that they have now landed in your other hand before he has time to say a word. You admonish him, “That’s too slow—you’ve got to be quick!” You now repeat the flourish again telling him to call out stop but alas again he is too slow as you spring the cards before he can say anything. By now he will be on edge and determined to call out “stop” as soon as possible when you repeat the action. You make a motion as if to spring the cards saying, “Say stop!”. However, the cards do not leave your hand. He will yell out stop almost by a reflex action even though you haven’t done a thing. You snort, “I haven’t started yet!” When the onlookers see that nothing has happened it will generally garner a good laugh. It is best not to do this in a smart alec manner although I confess that I don’t always practice what I preach!

You now pause and say, “I’ll tell you what. I’ll slow down and you speed up. And then we’ll meet in the middle!” Spring the cards at a moderate speed and give him time to stop you. Invite him to remove the card he stopped you at and show it to everyone who is watching without letting you see it. Start to overhand shuffle the deck and ask him to replace his card at any point during the shuffle. Part of the deck will be in your left hand and part in your right hand. The right hand is holding the lower portion with your key card on the bottom. The left hand will be holding the former upper portion which has been shuffled onto this hand. The spectator replaces his chosen card on the left hand portion. You now replace your right hand portion right on top of the chosen card. This will put the key card right above it.
Put the deck on the table and announce that you need five chances to find the selected card. From this point on the action is pretty similar to the description in the original version. However, you run through the deck and remove five cards rather than four as previously described. One of them will be the selected card, the other four cards will be as unlike the chosen card as possible, just as in the original version. You will of course know where the selected card is since it will be right underneath the key card.
Let us assume the chosen card is the seven of spades. In this case you would remove four red court cards. The position you put them in is a court card at the face, above it the seven of spades, and above that the other three court cards. Hold the packet face down in readiness to perform the glide move just as before. Show the face card and ask if it is the chosen one. The answer will be “no”. You now glide the bottom card and place down the selected one. Everyone will think the card on the table is the red court card you showed a moment ago. You reverse the cards openly counting them on the table saying, “In that case it must be one of these four”. Show the face card again and of course it will be just one of the remaining court cards. Ask if this is the card and again you will be answered in the negative. Place this card down alongside the selected card. You repeat all this with the new face card, putting it on the other side of the chosen card. The chosen card is now in the centre of the row. I should mention at this point that you do not lay the row of cards lengthwise as in the original description but in a horizontal row from left to right.
You have two cards left in your hand. The uppermost of has been seen already. Now if you wish you could simply proceed as in the original version and show the face card, place it down on the table then finally show the remaining card which they will have seen twice and of course just as in the original version ten to one nobody will notice that the card has been seen already. However, I always felt a bit nervous about this so I devised a little subtlety which can also be used in the original four card version. I tilt both cards upwards so the spectator can see the faces. However, I cover the index corner of the upper card with the lower card so it is hidden from view as shown in the illustration. I then replace these two cards on the table one at each end of the row.
The spectator will have denied that any of the five cards is the one he selected. You now proceed as in the original version asking him to touch one of the five cards. If you rush him slightly he will probably choose the middle card. If he doesn’t then you use the equivoque as already described with a slight difference. If he touches the wrong one you immediately say “touch another one”. If he now touches the correct one you eliminate the other three and proceed as in the original description. If he touches a different one your remove the two touched ones leaving three on the table. Ask him to touch one of the three cards. If he touches the correct one all well and good. If he doesn’t then just remove that one and proceed as before. Eventually he will touch the chosen card. However, most of the time you won’t have to go through these shenanigans as they will normally go for the middle card most of the time.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Steve Vaught » July 29th, 2018, 3:12 pm

Awesome!! Thanks so much for your time and attention. I have both books, Ill look into it.
SV

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby performer » July 29th, 2018, 4:03 pm

From memory in Expert Card Technique it is in the Self Working Tricks section (although it isn't really self working) and it is in the palming chapter in the Royal Road.

Here I am performing it in a trade show situation. The trick starts at 2.20 and you can see the reaction. At trade shows I work faster and more aggressively because of the situation. Lots of Jibber Jabber. It keeps people awake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNrvn4XWGWc

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby marselmarsel » August 4th, 2018, 12:28 pm

So similar to The trick of Partagas a Spaish magician and in book: Tio Cigueño 1839 is the version of Partagas and another similar to this effect.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby performer » August 4th, 2018, 1:49 pm

I did read something once known as "The Partagas Sell" authored by Victor Farelli. i vaguely seem to remember it was more on the lines of the Dunbury Delusion. I will have to check.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Philippe Billot » August 4th, 2018, 2:46 pm

You are right, Performer, it's the origin of Dunbury Delusion.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby marselmarsel » August 7th, 2018, 8:40 pm

Yes Farelli meet Partagas, and is not the Partagas original version but all posterior version are created from Partagas version.
Again are 2 similar version, in the Partagas version you show 4 indiferent cards ( and one is the previus selected card) then the 4 cards stay face down, spectator name one number and magician deal that number, now the magician say the car he has in his hand is the selected. The spectator know the magician is whrong, but now the magican tur the card and is the selected card and they see now is not betwen the 4 table cards.
And the other version, much older and apear in Tio Cigueño 1839 is the same but only the 4 cards are not the selected card, then the magican put in table, spectaror select one, magician show the other 3 no the selected card, but NOW the last selected card of 4 is the selected card.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Philippe Billot » August 8th, 2018, 3:10 am

Thanks for the reference.

Do you know if El Brujo en Sociedad (por D.J. Mieg) has been translate in French or English ?

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby performer » August 8th, 2018, 7:00 am

The original trick under discussion seems to be a different trick. The one I described is called Now You See It in the Royal Road to Card Magic. The other one is Design For Laughter also in the same book. They really are two different tricks. I do both and they are equally effective. Who invented them I have no idea. The Royal Road was never big on crediting.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby marselmarsel » August 15th, 2018, 8:20 pm

so, the trick is Partagas trick [The Partagas Sell] and is a variation of an other classic trick, Se Tio Cigueño. 1839.

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Re: Who Originated This Card Routine?

Postby Philippe Billot » August 16th, 2018, 1:15 am

And Tio Cigueño is the pen name of Don Juan Mieg who wrote El Brujo en sociedad in which there is the trick but my spanish is not good. So I ask you, Mr. Marcel Marcel :Do you know if this book was translated in French or English ?


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