Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Addresses new and interesting links to other sites (not listed on the Genii website) that merit attention.
Riversky
Posts: 55
Joined: October 31st, 2009, 10:27 pm
Location: none

Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Riversky » April 20th, 2018, 8:20 pm

Magicians don't usually reveal their secrets — but one of the world's most famous magicians — David Copperfield — just did.

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/20/60442393 ... t-to-trick

User avatar
Richard Kaufman
Posts: 24354
Joined: July 18th, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Theodore DeLand
Location: Washington DC
Contact:

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Richard Kaufman » April 20th, 2018, 9:28 pm

No, he didn't reveal the secret.
Subscribe today to Genii Magazine

observer
Posts: 342
Joined: August 31st, 2014, 5:32 am
Favorite Magician: Harry Kellar - Charlie Miller - Paul Rosini - Jay Marshall
Location: Chicago

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby observer » April 21st, 2018, 4:30 am

The real point is, never ask a spec to do anything more demanding than selecting a card and remembering it.

And even then, have them hold the card up for the rest of the audience to see, so that when they freak out at the idea of being on stage and forget it, at least a few people will know what it was.

performer
Posts: 2831
Joined: August 7th, 2015, 10:35 pm

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby performer » April 21st, 2018, 7:33 am

Alas you only have to reveal part of the secret for laymen to be satisfied that they know all there is to know. Come to think of it I don't think I would relish rushing through unfamiliar terrain either. I can quite see someone slipping and hurting themselves. I am surprised it hasn't happened already. Mind you it probably has and we haven't heard about it.

User avatar
Christopher1979
Posts: 281
Joined: January 23rd, 2017, 10:46 am
Favorite Magician: Ricky Jay, Dai Vernon, Darwin Ortiz, Ed Marlo
Location: Phoenix AZ

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Christopher1979 » April 21st, 2018, 12:57 pm

performer wrote:Alas you only have to reveal part of the secret for laymen to be satisfied that they know all there is to know. Come to think of it I don't think I would relish rushing through unfamiliar terrain either. I can quite see someone slipping and hurting themselves. I am surprised it hasn't happened already. Mind you it probably has and we haven't heard about it.


Not really related, but, what you said made me think of a YouTube clip of the sawing a women in half trick. The women had problems in the box and the magician really did "saw a women in half"...... Disturbing to say the least.... :!:

Brad Henderson
Posts: 3787
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: austin, tx

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Brad Henderson » April 21st, 2018, 8:23 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:No, he didn't reveal the secret.



on the news segment i saw they stated that the volunteers were substituted with stage hands before taking them out the back and down corridors etc. They even aired the video footage of them making that trip.

it certainly wasn’t everything, but it also wasn’t
nothing.

unless you are making the argument that it wasn’t dc per se who did the revealing per se

User avatar
erdnasephile
Posts: 3791
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby erdnasephile » April 22nd, 2018, 1:16 pm

I'm not sure why the media is so breathless over the alleged reveal. The GMA correspondent I saw said something like: "They don't really disappear...they run to the back of the theater through passageways!"

Well...duh.

It's sort of frightening if there are really people out there who were shocked at this.

performer
Posts: 2831
Joined: August 7th, 2015, 10:35 pm

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby performer » April 22nd, 2018, 5:30 pm

I think the secret of the trick was already out there even before this incident happened. Presumably this trick has been performed hundreds of times over the years and hundreds of people have taken this little run and afterwards told their friends what happened. So hundreds know how it is done already. Not quite as bad as You Tube exposure but bad enough. This is what happens when you use stooges which is what those audience members ended up being.

I am not the judge or jury here but running down dark passageways and unfamiliar terrain where construction has been going on is asking for trouble.

User avatar
EndersGame
Posts: 108
Joined: March 15th, 2018, 8:21 pm
Favorite Magician: Tommy Wonder
Contact:

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby EndersGame » June 1st, 2018, 3:24 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:No, he didn't reveal the secret.

On the positive side, it's great that they consulted you and quoted you Mr Kaufman!
Click here to see all my reviews: Magic Reviews Playing Card Reviews Board Game Reviews

performer
Posts: 2831
Joined: August 7th, 2015, 10:35 pm

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby performer » June 2nd, 2018, 6:42 pm

I have been informed by a highly irritated Mr Dickens in the spirit world that David Kotkin is not the only entertainer who has stolen the title of his book and used it as a stage name. Here is another chap doing the same thing. Some might say he is more entertaining than Mr Kotkin. He is certainly funnier and a better ventriloquist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tylk6JKk4

User avatar
Richard Kaufman
Posts: 24354
Joined: July 18th, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Theodore DeLand
Location: Washington DC
Contact:

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Richard Kaufman » June 2nd, 2018, 11:03 pm

Wayne Dobson did a fabulous version of that bit. It was hysterical.

Edited to correct Wayne Rogers to Wayne Dobson. Argh!
Subscribe today to Genii Magazine

User avatar
AJM
Posts: 1131
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Scotland

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby AJM » June 3rd, 2018, 4:30 am

The ‘vent’ David Copperfield found fame in the 80’s in a BBC sketch show called Three of a Kind, which also starred (Sir) Lenny Henry and Tracey Ullman. While the latter pair went on to bigger and better things, the British DC disappeared into obscurity.

Wayne Dobson also used to do a similar piece in his act as I recall.

Feel free to delete this post if considered off-topic.

Andrew
Corner-boy Begrudger

Max Maven
Posts: 439
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Hollywood, CA
Contact:

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby Max Maven » June 3rd, 2018, 6:41 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:Wayne Rogers did a fabulous version of that bit. It was hysterical.


You’re misremembering: that was Wayne Dobson.

The bit has been used by many vents. I recall a very good rendition by the excellent French ventriloquist Georges Schlick.

Contrary to Mark Lewis’ proclamation, the bit precedes Britain’s Dennis Spicer in the 1950s.

Although it is probably older, the earliest reference of which I’m aware is, surprisingly, by an American not thought of as a vent: Lord Buckley, who was doing his version in the 1940s. He called the routine “The Chairs.”

observer
Posts: 342
Joined: August 31st, 2014, 5:32 am
Favorite Magician: Harry Kellar - Charlie Miller - Paul Rosini - Jay Marshall
Location: Chicago

Re: Copperfield Forced To Reveal Secret To Trick

Postby observer » June 3rd, 2018, 6:10 pm

AJM wrote:The ‘vent’ David Copperfield found fame in the 80’s in a BBC sketch show called Three of a Kind, which also starred (Sir) Lenny Henry and Tracey Ullman. While the latter pair went on to bigger and better things, the British DC disappeared into obscurity.

Andrew


Born Stanley Barlow. Doing speaking now perhaps? A link from 2015:

http://comedians4u.co.uk/comedian/david ... #more-8548


Return to “Link Watch”