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DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby JHostler » July 2nd, 2016, 11:48 am

Good grief...

How many hours have y'all invested in DMCA takedown notices? Can anyone recommend a cost-effective service? Torrents and [seemingly] overseas "dealers" re-market pirated content like malignant cancers.

I'll never again publish an e-book. At least paper demands some effort on the part of these crooks... :evil:

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 2nd, 2016, 1:37 pm

Only websites in the US will take stuff down. That's my experience. You can't get stuff off torrent sites. However you are not losing many sales because of this. Kids collect stuff off torrent sites but don't read them--they just collect them.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby lybrary » July 2nd, 2016, 2:34 pm

I have successfully terminated pirate sellers on two of the largest Chinese retail platforms. Many other sites do obey DMCA takedowns. Some don't.

BTW paper copies do not protect you. Basically everything is already available digitally. The best way to counter that is to have your own digital edition available. That way the majority will purchase from an honest retailer and not be tempted to download a pirated version.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby JHostler » July 2nd, 2016, 7:32 pm

Generally speaking, my experience is consistent with Richard's... China & Hong Kong are proving problematic. In at least one case, though, the moron behind the site didn't even bother masking his identity on whois. I invoiced him a few grand for licensing fees. Of course, this will go nowhere - but it's fun trying.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Mahdi Gilbert » August 2nd, 2016, 9:37 am

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The people stealing them most likely will never watch or read the material they stole. The same people will never pay for your product in the first place. It's unfortunate that it happens but their is very little legal recourse. Even 'legitimate' sites like scribd.com are flooded constantly with illegal uploads.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Brett McCarron » January 16th, 2020, 10:07 am

Sorry to resurrect an old thread.

At least Scribd.com will pay attention to DMCA take-down notices. They have removed several of my works, usually doing so within 48 hours of receipt of the notice. The non-US pirate sites, not so much. The best I can hope for is that their hosting company (to whom the notice is directed) kicks them off. They just move to another site.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Chris Aguilar » January 16th, 2020, 10:47 am

Brett McCarron wrote:Sorry to resurrect an old thread.

At least Scribd.com will pay attention to DMCA take-down notices. They have removed several of my works, usually doing so within 48 hours of receipt of the notice.

And then within a short period of time, they'll probably get uploaded again, perhaps by another person who previously downloaded them. Depressing, but true.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 16th, 2020, 4:40 pm

Kindle have something known as "digital rights management" (DRM) which is supposed to protect you from having your e-book copied. I have no idea how effective it is.

https://itstillworks.com/kindle-drm-17841.html

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Longtimelurker » January 16th, 2020, 4:56 pm

performer wrote:Kindle have something known as "digital rights management" (DRM) which is supposed to protect you from having your e-book copied. I have no idea how effective it is.

https://itstillworks.com/kindle-drm-17841.html


DRM not working. All stop using stem year ago.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 16th, 2020, 5:19 pm

Really? I do know they still offer it as an option to their authors. Has anyone else had experience with this?

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Longtimelurker » January 17th, 2020, 5:18 am

performer wrote:Really? I do know they still offer it as an option to their authors. Has anyone else had experience with this?


I try say 'DRM not work stop pirating' - every musics/vido/etc place stopping using maybe ten year since

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 20th, 2020, 1:29 pm

Sorry. I am not sure what you are trying to say. Perhaps someone will translate.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 20th, 2020, 4:24 pm

Longtimelurker wrote:
performer wrote:Really? I do know they still offer it as an option to their authors. Has anyone else had experience with this?


I try say 'DRM not work stop pirating' - every musics/vido/etc place stopping using maybe ten year since


Is English not your native language? Your posts are a bit confusing.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 20th, 2020, 5:22 pm

I bet he is trying to say that DRM hasn't worked for ten years! If that is the case then why is Amazon still offering it?

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Leo Garet » January 21st, 2020, 11:44 am

If anybody can work out how Amazon works, perhaps they'll post it here.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Longtimelurker » January 22nd, 2020, 10:23 am

performer wrote:I bet he is trying to say that DRM hasn't worked for ten years! If that is the case then why is Amazon still offering it?


Yes!

They want make controlling of books.

But yes, it simple for remove DRM, so no use.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Longtimelurker » January 22nd, 2020, 10:23 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:
Longtimelurker wrote:
performer wrote:Really? I do know they still offer it as an option to their authors. Has anyone else had experience with this?


I try say 'DRM not work stop pirating' - every musics/vido/etc place stopping using maybe ten year since


Is English not your native language? Your posts are a bit confusing.


Sorry I make try more.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 22nd, 2020, 1:32 pm

I think we all know that Digital Rights Management systems do not work. The movement has been away from them for a decade.
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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 22nd, 2020, 1:47 pm

So why are Amazon Kindle still offering it to their authors?

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Leo Garet » January 23rd, 2020, 11:30 am

performer wrote:So why are Amazon Kindle still offering it to their authors?


You may wish to refer to my most recent post, which in essence goes something like this:

If anybody can work out how Amazon works, perhaps they'll post it here.

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby Longtimelurker » January 24th, 2020, 10:37 am

Leo Garet wrote:
performer wrote:So why are Amazon Kindle still offering it to their authors?


You may wish to refer to my most recent post, which in essence goes something like this:

If anybody can work out how Amazon works, perhaps they'll post it here.


they try control books on kindle device they make selling.

https://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-kindle-swindle

https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-sh ... -bad-idea/

https://medialoper.com/why-kindles-drm- ... or-amazon/

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Re: DMCA Takedown Notice H*ll

Postby performer » January 27th, 2020, 8:28 pm

I will have to read all this properly later when I have time. However, at first glance it seems that it is the readers and the copyists who are complaining rather than the authors.


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