Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

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Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby erdnasephile » October 18th, 2019, 2:22 pm

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Luis Piedrahita describes his CSB routine on his "Three Routines" video and I believe there is a YouTube performance of the routine on-line as well.

In the second phase, he tosses the gimmick to the table and it splits.

Does anyone have any specific techniques or tips to get the gimmick to split consistently and not be exposed? or is it just a move one must just get a knack for with practice?

Many thanks!

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 18th, 2019, 3:13 pm

Sounds like a knack. He probably did it by accident one day and kept it.
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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby PapaG » October 18th, 2019, 5:15 pm

I find it's more likely to split in the right way if I follow forward - parallel to the surface of the table - with the knuckle of the right hand, after the 'coin' has been thrown; sort of dropping the coin off as the hand moves forward.

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby PapaG » October 18th, 2019, 5:17 pm

(the Three Routines video is excellent...)

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby erdnasephile » October 18th, 2019, 10:35 pm

PapaG wrote:I find it's more likely to split in the right way if I follow forward - parallel to the surface of the table - with the knuckle of the right hand, after the 'coin' has been thrown; sort of dropping the coin off as the hand moves forward.


Thanks, PapaG---I'll try it.

Do you hold the gaff completely perpendicular when you let go? I notice that Luis seems to hold the coin slightly leaning towards himself, but for me, that's been a non-starter.

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby PapaG » October 19th, 2019, 1:47 am

Yes. And I let go before finishing the forward motion of the throw.

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby Mark Tams » October 19th, 2019, 5:50 am

IMO . . . I think part of what helps is that he uses Todd's coins. That coupled with dollar sized (weight) I believe plays a partial role in this.

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby PapaG » October 19th, 2019, 9:03 am

It’s actually easier to get the knack of making half dollars split than full dollars.

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby erdnasephile » October 19th, 2019, 12:50 pm

Mark: That's an interesting point: I think Todd's insert edges are beveled, right? I wonder if that helps. I'll try out a Schoolcraft dollar set to see if it makes a difference. I haven't had 100% consistency with Mark Mason's half dollar set yet.

(I wish Todd would consider making more dollar size (or even half dollar sized) CSB, but that appears rather unlikely at this point).

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby Paco Nagata » October 22nd, 2019, 4:01 pm

I wonder who created the CSB gimmick...
"The Passion of an Amateur Card Magician"
https://bit.ly/2lXdO2O
"La pasion de un cartómago aficionado"
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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby erdnasephile » October 22nd, 2019, 4:31 pm

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Re: Help with Piedrahita's CSB please

Postby Paco Nagata » October 22nd, 2019, 7:03 pm

Thank you!
As a great gimmick I really wanted to know the great mind that created it.
I'm not fond of doing coin magic, but I'm fond of
doing coin-card magic.
Here is a routine by Reed McClintock using the gimmick with cards, performed by a great performer from one of my favourite personal Youtube channel: tomosanb
https://youtu.be/DI-o5Hd8oxs
It's in Japanese, but we all understand the Magic Language.
"The Passion of an Amateur Card Magician"
https://bit.ly/2lXdO2O
"La pasion de un cartómago aficionado"
https://bit.ly/2kkjpjn


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