Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

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Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 26th, 2013, 9:43 pm

There's an Astro Coin on eBay right now, with an insane bidding war going on:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321095918918?ss ... 1426.l2649

In fact, there are lots of Tenyo auctions at the moment with totally nutso prices!
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby John LeBlanc » March 26th, 2013, 10:02 pm

That's wild.

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby stereo » March 27th, 2013, 12:06 pm

The item is clearly not complete and excellent. And it's Japanese matchbox with English package.

So I would like to know is if the American version is normally supplied with a "protecto" matchbox or if both version are supplied with japanese matchbox ( like the one on this auction and like on my japanese version)

The version with the "protecto" box wich pop-up last year on ebay was may be a fake and does not exist ?

I think Richard to see both versions and can enlighten us about this point.
Ps: if someone have English instruction of Astro Coin, Pm me, I'd be happy to have a copy.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » March 27th, 2013, 12:25 pm

Stereo, the only item which appears to be missing from the Astro-Coin on eBay is most of the matches. I used to have one of these, and I believe the matchbox was the same for both the US and Japanese versions.

This trick was invented by Werry in the 1950s, and it has been sold by many magic dealers for decades. It would be very easy for someone to take one of those and put it into the Tenyo Box if they had an empty box. I know that the Japanese matchbox is the one which Tenyo sold.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 27th, 2013, 8:08 pm

$868 with 1 hour 13 minutes to go!
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby edshern » March 27th, 2013, 8:14 pm

Keep in mind that for many this kind of money is
literally insignificant.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » March 27th, 2013, 8:16 pm

Perhaps, but I don't know many Tenyo collectors for whom this amount is insignificant.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Tom Leyland » March 27th, 2013, 9:04 pm

$972!!

I'm sorry, for a cheap card box, a cheap match box, a couple of matches, and a couple of coins and instructions, I would say 1 large is pretty significant!!

Although the same can be said for comic books, baseballs cards, and other seemingly worthless articles.

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Postby Tom Leyland » March 27th, 2013, 9:06 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Perhaps, but I don't know many Tenyo collectors for whom this amount is insignificant.


It is insignificant to many if you're single ;). Family guys like you and I will be pistol whipped for even looking at the ad the wrong way!!

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Tom Leyland » March 27th, 2013, 9:21 pm

Closed at $972

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Tom Leyland » March 27th, 2013, 9:24 pm

Tenyo should be notified! LOL

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Postby Richard Kaufman » March 27th, 2013, 10:15 pm

I did.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Tom Leyland » March 27th, 2013, 10:26 pm

Tell them to search their warehouse(s)!!

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Postby Botond Kelle » October 20th, 2014, 2:04 am

If any of you are interested: I have recently started an English Astro Coin auction at eb*y.

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 20th, 2014, 12:19 pm

You can write out the name eBay here with no problem, and you can also post a link to your auction.

It's already at over $500 with six days to go!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenyo-Magic-T-4 ... 27eea768be
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Postby AJM » October 20th, 2014, 1:44 pm

Some nice Tenyo items for sale here.

I have dealt with this gentleman before on eBay and happy to recommend.

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Botond Kelle » October 26th, 2014, 1:04 pm

FYI: The Astro Coin ends in less than 2 hours, the winning bid right now is 600.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenyo-Magic-T-4 ... 27eea768be

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Postby Richard Kaufman » October 26th, 2014, 4:33 pm

Ended at $600.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby steve henderson » October 27th, 2014, 11:42 am

Still you nearly won the Astro Coin Rich :D

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 27th, 2014, 2:30 pm

Not really. I was just making the other guy pay more. I already have one.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Brad Jeffers » October 27th, 2014, 3:33 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote: I was just making the other guy pay more. I already have one.

Despicable!

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Postby Richard Kaufman » October 27th, 2014, 4:12 pm

Gee, what a surprise. The winning bidder backed out!
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Brad Jeffers » October 27th, 2014, 4:54 pm

I guess he was also just trying to make you pay more, and was left holding the bag.

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 27th, 2014, 9:15 pm

The seller is then supposed to file a "non-paying bidder" complaint with eBay, and get the buyer who backed out kicked off.

However, very often the person bidding against you is a friend of the seller who's making shill bids to drive up the price. When you see an item close at a high price, and it's relisted quickly, this is often the case.
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Postby Botond Kelle » October 28th, 2014, 6:07 am

I can assure you this is not the case here.

I'm quite angry with the winner right now because he could not explain to me why he placed bids if he knew he does not have enough money to actually pay for the item.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » October 28th, 2014, 12:14 pm

Then you should file a "non-paying bidder" complaint with eBay.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby steve henderson » October 28th, 2014, 2:01 pm

or Second Chance it to Richard?.

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 28th, 2014, 2:08 pm

Non-winning bidders are not obligated to accept second-chance offers.

The price for Tenyo items has been dropping steadily over the past year and a half.
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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Botond Kelle » October 29th, 2014, 5:07 pm

As you already know the winning bidder backed out. So the Astro coin is available for sale again at ebay. The starting bid is 1 dollars and there is no reserve price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenyo-Magic-T-4 ... 1572601828

(The ebay system does not allow me to open a case now against the winner because I have already started to cancel the transaction in order to be able to relist it. He still hasn't accepted this cancellation despite the fact that he requested it. It is very hard to communicate with him, he barely speaks English. I do not want to deal with him any more and asked him to not bid at the auction again.)

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Botond Kelle » November 7th, 2014, 3:56 am

The Astro Coin Auction at ebay ends in one day. The current price is 330 dollars. If any of you are interested in bidding or just checking out how the auction goes here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenyo-Magic-T-4 ... 1572601828

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Re: Astro-Coin: Only for the Rich Collector

Postby Tom Leyland » November 13th, 2014, 6:33 am

It's a good thing that Tenyo prices have been dropping. I think a reset of the market helps to attract new collectors. Also you might say that true Tenyo collectors don't care what they're worth. I think speculators and greedy collectors will feel a market adjustment the most.

Keep in mind however that often Tenyo closings will have no rhyme or reason to them. One auction something goes for stupid money and the next something goes for next to nothing.

I think the book is going to cause prices to soar...


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