looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
Hi guys,
I'm writing up a routine that uses the Jinx Switch and I'm wondering what I should put as a reference for it. It's mentioned in the Art of Astonishment books but I understand that it goes back a lot further than that.
any help would be most appreciated.
thank you in advance,
Oliver
I'm writing up a routine that uses the Jinx Switch and I'm wondering what I should put as a reference for it. It's mentioned in the Art of Astonishment books but I understand that it goes back a lot further than that.
any help would be most appreciated.
thank you in advance,
Oliver
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Re: looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
It was described in "The Jinx", #36 from September 1937.
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Thank you Jim! So is that where the name of the move came from, or is it just a coincidence?
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Yes, that's why it's named "The Jinx Switch". The actual switch is not named in the Jinx...it's just described as part of a trick called "Call Your Hand".
FYI: All issues of the Jinx are available for free over at the Learned Pig Project.
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FYI: All issues of the Jinx are available for free over at the Learned Pig Project.
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Re: looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
Marlo have a variation named Olram's Jinx Switch in Marlo's Magazine, vol. 5, 1984, page 178.
Re: looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
And the move belongs to Annemann?
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It's an old move from the gambling table.
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Is this the pack in one hand and card (or packet) in the other exchange?
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The packet is on the table and you put the deck on top of it, leaving a packet in your other hand.
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The Jinx says that you drop your dealt hand onto the deck and strip off the cards on the bottom at the same time.
I learned a similar move from a gambler, when I was a kid. It is a bit different than that described in Jinx. As your fellow players are picking up their hands, instead of dropping the hand on the deck, you drop the deck onto the hand, as you steal and spread the hand from the bottom.... That move was included in my "juvenile" booklet, Magical Ramblings of an Idle Mind, put out by Abbotts, back in 1965. .... opie
I learned a similar move from a gambler, when I was a kid. It is a bit different than that described in Jinx. As your fellow players are picking up their hands, instead of dropping the hand on the deck, you drop the deck onto the hand, as you steal and spread the hand from the bottom.... That move was included in my "juvenile" booklet, Magical Ramblings of an Idle Mind, put out by Abbotts, back in 1965. .... opie
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Richard Kaufman wrote:The packet is on the table and you put the deck on top of it, leaving a packet in your other hand.
That's the older sleight (Leipzig used something similar in his "Five Hands"). The Jinx switch has the packet being switched out ending on top of the deck, not the bottom.
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It is probably more 16th/17th Century than Medieval ..... or were you referring to my age?...Seriously, friends of my dad knew the move well...and used it.....tsk tsk...opie
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What distinguishes either from a hop?
Any thoughts on moving to the word "citation" in place of "credit"?
Any thoughts on moving to the word "citation" in place of "credit"?
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A hop is the same as a pass or shift. No relation to the switches mentioned.
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Jonathan, like Jim said, there is no hop in the move, just a table of the deck and steal of cards from the bottom as it happens...No credit or mentions sought.
I was ten when I learned it and knew that my dad's gambler friends did not invent it....
I doubt if they knew who Leipzig was, but they knew Erdnase and only mentioned his name in a whisper, if at all. They were surprised to learn that I had Expert at the Card Table and told me that some people have paid thousands of dollars for copies of the book. I believe I paid a dollar for my copy....Virtually all of them learned their cards and dice handling from somebody, rather than any written sources....
Dad did not approve of his friends showing me the card and dice moves, which made the lessons all that more interesting. More than once, Dad would caution me about even thinking of getting into the rackets, and Grandma, who was a lay Assembly of God Preacher, would call me a witch and tell me that I was damned to go to hell....
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opie
I was ten when I learned it and knew that my dad's gambler friends did not invent it....
I doubt if they knew who Leipzig was, but they knew Erdnase and only mentioned his name in a whisper, if at all. They were surprised to learn that I had Expert at the Card Table and told me that some people have paid thousands of dollars for copies of the book. I believe I paid a dollar for my copy....Virtually all of them learned their cards and dice handling from somebody, rather than any written sources....
Dad did not approve of his friends showing me the card and dice moves, which made the lessons all that more interesting. More than once, Dad would caution me about even thinking of getting into the rackets, and Grandma, who was a lay Assembly of God Preacher, would call me a witch and tell me that I was damned to go to hell....
I loved my childhood....Magic was the cement that held my wondrous worlds together.
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Thanks, for some reason I was under the impression that a hop is a discrepant transfer action where a card or cards is swapped for others from the bottom of the pack.
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The gambling move that Richard and Opie are referring to, by the way, can be found in "How Gamblers Win", which was reprinted by Magicana not too long ago.
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-Jonathan Townsend wrote:Thanks, for some reason I was under the impression that a hop is a discrepant transfer action where a card or cards is swapped for others from the bottom of the pack.
Suits me....personally, I am not a card fan.....tsk tsk...opie
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With a Steve Forte preface if I am not mistaken
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Re: looking for a credit for the Jinx Switch
Jonathan,
It is a discrepant transfer action, although the card comes from the top, not the bottom.
It is a discrepant transfer action, although the card comes from the top, not the bottom.