The Magic Menu

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Jim Sisti
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Jim Sisti » December 13th, 2009, 9:06 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Walter has made conflicting statements, but that doesn't make him bi-polar. Just inconsistent.


I agree...but that's not as funny...

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Keith Raygor » December 13th, 2009, 10:25 pm

Christopher Lyle wrote:If you don't like me, or what I have to say, you can just ignore what my column and move on to the next one.


I suppose. But that wasn't what I had in mind when I bought a subscription.
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Christopher Lyle » December 13th, 2009, 11:09 pm

Keith Raygor wrote:
Christopher Lyle wrote:If you don't like me, or what I have to say, you can just ignore what my column and move on to the next one.


I suppose. But that wasn't what I had in mind when I bought a subscription.


Keith,

Obviously, I would love it if everyone loved what I had to write about. It would be my hope that each and every person who subscribed to The Menu would read my column. I hope that you read it and I hope that you found it informative.

But as I have learned over the years, no matter what I do, say, or write about, there will be folks out there who won't like it. There is little that I can do to fix that issue as it's a variable that remains out of my control. I have a lot of fans out there in the Magic Community who enjoy what I write, agree with my opinions and support my effort (I hope that you are one of them).

But it's unrealalistic to think that every person will agree with me. So if one doesn't like what I have to say, then they don't have to read it.

My guess is, that I'll be pretty safe for January with my column becuase it's an advice column. Pretty safe stuff. However, for my 3rd column, I will return to "rant" mode.

Thanks for subscribing...glad to have you along for the ride...

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Nathan Muir
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » December 14th, 2009, 12:46 am

Mark.Lewis wrote:I think it is simply a matter of Walter changing his mind then changing it back again once he saw an actual issue. He decided it was no good then he wondered if he was perhaps wrong but once he saw the issue he realised he wasn't


As Keynes said: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby opie » December 14th, 2009, 7:38 am

Is the Magic Menu going to run a "Seven Keynes" routine?.....

Sisti did a good job with the original Menus; I suspect that, like all magazines, there will be, according to different opinions, some good, bad, and ugly....That's life, and one cannot have a full plate all the time...

Mix it up, Sisti; that's the key, and you cannot toss a seven every time....

Perhaps it would be nice to see some of the planned routines for future issues....

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby El Mystico » December 21st, 2009, 12:04 pm

Silly Walter wrote that Paul Gordon's Twister and Diminishing Not Likely were not new.
I pointed out that Paul's write up of Twister in Apocalypse acknowledged it was based on something by Max Maven.
But - Diminishing Not Likely, with its combination of a Diminishing Lift Sequence and an Elmsley Count, is clever. And I don't know where it had been published before. Maybe I'm missing soomething. Is that based on something else? Or is that a really good, new, contribution to card magic?

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Paul Gordon » December 21st, 2009, 12:11 pm

Dear El Mystico,

It's not that new. I first published (in lecture notes) Diminishing? Not Likely! circa 1983. It then appeared in book form in Protean Card Magic (1996). It's been on most videos/dvds of mine since the late 80's.

Glad you like it, though...

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Jonathan Arturo » December 24th, 2009, 10:02 pm

Magic menu
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....I know oh great here we go again, just kidding!

I am a fan of the original and am sure the new will be every bit as good!

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Silly Walter » February 13th, 2010, 11:39 pm

Someone should write a column on how to create fake publicity photos and pass them off to Magic forums as if they were the real deal.
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 13th, 2010, 11:43 pm

You mean like backstage gig photos? Or studio photos? How are the latter not the real deal?

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Silly Walter » February 14th, 2010, 12:07 am

Nathan Muir wrote:You mean like backstage gig photos? Or studio photos? How are the latter not the real deal?


Specifically the need to hire a professional photographer rather than just an "idiot" with a camera. Of course, you would want to talk about proper lighting, action shots, attire, etc.
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Dustin Stinett » February 14th, 2010, 12:49 am

Walter might be Silly, but hes right. I would also add that its a big help if the photographer understands magic. They are out there and three that Ive worked with on many of my Genii articles are (in alphabetical order) Pete Biro, Kari Hendler, and Damon Webster. They are all great at what they do.

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Jon Allen » February 15th, 2010, 3:34 pm

My favourite magic photo of all time is of three magicians at a black tie event. They were posing for a photo *after* entertaining The Queen. No sign of her or any sign of her being there but, hey, the caption says it so it must be true!

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Richard Kaufman » February 15th, 2010, 4:43 pm

They didn't say which "Queen," did they? Lots of queens around. :)
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 15th, 2010, 5:06 pm

Silly Walter wrote:Someone should write a column on how to create fake publicity photos and pass them off to Magic forums as if they were the real deal.


I don't get the "passing them off to magic forums" comment. Has someone been doing this?

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Ian Kendall » February 15th, 2010, 5:11 pm

Something that happened somewhere else, and was busted somewhere elser.

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 16th, 2010, 3:05 am

That's a little too cryptic for me.

?????

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Ian Kendall » February 16th, 2010, 3:50 am

It's gone now, so there's no point in explaining.

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 16th, 2010, 5:07 am

Did it have something to do with the Magic Menu? Stop being so coy and intriguing, Ian!

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Ian Kendall » February 16th, 2010, 6:44 am

It had nothing directly to do with MM. Really, it's not worth bothering about...

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Silly Walter » February 17th, 2010, 1:50 am

Jon Allen wrote:My favourite magic photo of all time is of three magicians at a black tie event. They were posing for a photo *after* entertaining The Queen. No sign of her or any sign of her being there but, hey, the caption says it so it must be true!


That's pretty bad but that's exactly the kind of stuff I was talking about.

I can think of two other cases similar to that:

1. Ernie Bryant, gambling expert, had a newspaper that featured a headline stating that Ernie had bankrupted a casino (from cheating). The problem was it was a newspaper you would have created with your name in the headline, like you would get at an american amusement park. My cousin was athlete of the year on the cover of Sports Illustrated when he went to Six Flags a long time ago. He had a publicity photo with him holding that newspaper.

2. This one is even funnier! Some magician claimed that someone went backstage and took some photos of him during a performance. From what I understand, the photo actually looked great. It was the finale' of a stage routine performed at one of his shows. Unfortunately someone noticed that the photo appeared a bit odd and upon further research, determined the photo to be a fake (I was told it was taken in a practice space - perhaps a spare room because there were props and other magic related items around). When he was outed, he immediately took the photos down and then tried to claim it was all a big joke. He's a big numpty if you ask me.

I would love to see the Queen photo. It should have stated "Not pictured - the Queen".
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 17th, 2010, 2:18 am

I don't get the relevance. Does Ernie Bryant write for the Magic Menu?

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Ian Kendall » February 17th, 2010, 5:01 am

Nope. It was the second one.

Really, it's not worth it.

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Silly Walter » February 17th, 2010, 9:08 am

Nathan Muir wrote:I don't get the relevance. Does Ernie Bryant write for the Magic Menu?


I doubt that Ernie would be writing for the Magic Menu. He passed away several years ago and has been out of the restaurant scene ever since.
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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Nathan Muir » February 17th, 2010, 4:07 pm

I don't see that as an impediment. He couldn't be any less stimulating that Chris Lyle's columns.

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Re: The Magic Menu

Postby Silly Walter » February 22nd, 2010, 5:52 pm

Nathan Muir wrote:I don't see that as an impediment. He couldn't be any less stimulating that Chris Lyle's columns.


Very true.
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