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Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 6:08 pm
by dlfodness
In a Magicana article in an issue of Genii over ten years ago in, Jack Parker's "In, On, and Under" was described. The Zen Spread was part of that description and was in the same issue, found with the effect, "Traveling Without Moving". I have lost track of that issue of Genii. Can anyone provide a location for or a description of the Zen Spread? Thanks!

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 6:33 pm
by dlfodness
Whoops! Sorry about the word "in" following the phrase, "ten years ago". Please disregard it!

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 6:49 pm
by Richard Kaufman
If you subscribe, you can find it online in our archive.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 7:50 pm
by Bill Mullins
June 2006 issue, with Dai Vernon on the cover. Also in 52 Memories.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 9:24 pm
by dlfodness
Yes, I realize I could recover the Zen Spread explanation by (re)subscribing to Genii, but I was hoping that the Zen Spread would be available elsewhere; for example, on a web site that described sleights. So, again, any help in locating it would be appreciated!

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: February 28th, 2018, 10:37 pm
by Richard Kaufman
No links (if they exist) will be posted here because the item is being taught without permission if it is being taught for free on the internet. You have to pay for things.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 1st, 2018, 2:37 am
by Brad Jeffers
Things would become greatly complicated and tedious if you needed to get permission every time you wanted to teach something that you learned from reading books and magazines.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 1st, 2018, 10:52 am
by Richard Kaufman
You misunderstand my point.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 1st, 2018, 3:02 pm
by Ryan Matney
But, Richard, are you SURE you can't give away your work for free? :lol:

The point of Genii having exclusive stuff is the value and incentive to subscribe.

That's not exactly the same as two magicians sharing or publishing a trick using the technique.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 1st, 2018, 9:23 pm
by Leonard Hevia
If a magician publishes an effect that utilizes the Zen Spread, it still has to be purchased, whether in a download, book, magazine or DVD.The OP wants to learn this sleight without having to pay anything for it. It isn't on YouTube which is why he's having a tough time finding it for free.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 2nd, 2018, 10:10 am
by dlfodness
I wasn't clear about my background in hoping to find the Zen Spread explanation. The previous post said that I wanted it for free and should instead pay for it. That's not actually the case. I had subscribed to Genii for many years and had saved the pages for the effect and for the Zen Spread instructions, but I have mislaid the Zen Spread page. I was just hoping it would be available in some place so I could relearn it. Sounds as if that may not be possible.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 2nd, 2018, 10:51 am
by Richard Kaufman
A digital subscription to Genii is only $35 and you have access to 80 years of the magazine. Worth it.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 3rd, 2018, 10:27 am
by Leonard Hevia
Richard Kaufman wrote:A digital subscription to Genii is only $35 and you have access to 80 years of the magazine. Worth it.


Hear, hear.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 4th, 2018, 8:47 am
by Philippe Billot
Oyez ! Oyez !

Digital Genii 35$+ 52 Memories 50$. Two opportunities to learn the Zen Spread for 85$

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 4th, 2018, 11:48 am
by Leonard Hevia
Philippe Billot wrote:Oyez ! Oyez !

Digital Genii 35$+ 52 Memories 50$. Two opportunities to learn the Zen Spread for 85$


Precisement Phillippe! And with Jack Parker's 52 Memories, you get so much more than just the Zen Spread. The OP has moved on, probably to the Cafe, where magic panhandling is rampant.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 4th, 2018, 1:02 pm
by Jackpot
While I understand why everyone gets so fired up due to the amount of thievery that occurs on the internet, in this case I feel it is a little over the top. When you compare what he wrote about the Jack Parker issue, the OP remembered a lot about this particular issue Magicana. He had a better memory for the name of two tricks using the Zen Spread than how to accomplish the sleight. He really sounds like a former subscriber to Genii.

We all lose things and end up either having to replace them or do without. He asked for a solution to his problem and a reasonable one was given. Whether he decides to use it or not is up to him. The piling on seems unnecessary and probably makes him less rather than more likely to resubscribe.

Another great reason to subscribe to Genii digitally is because you can save specific material on your computer as a PDF. While it may be harder for some to read articles on the computer, it is even harder for someone to lose his computer than past issues of magazines. Genii iis a great buy and with the digital archive it is a fantastic buy.

Re: Searching for the Zen Spread

Posted: March 11th, 2018, 3:40 pm
by Leonard Hevia
Jackpot wrote:We all lose things and end up either having to replace them or do without. He asked for a solution to his problem and a reasonable one was given. Whether he decides to use it or not is up to him. The piling on seems unnecessary and probably makes him less rather than more likely to resubscribe.


He asked to find a move without paying for it. If you lose something, you buy a replacement. If the piling on turned him away from resubscribing, I would be glad to purchase an extra subscription to Genii and gift it to someone to make up for that loss.