Research Help

All beginners in magic should address their questions here.
Bob Plaut
Posts: 297
Joined: February 22nd, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: CT

Research Help

Postby Bob Plaut » April 21st, 2024, 6:14 pm

I’m doing some research on the comedy bit where a helper chooses a card from a jumbo deck and after some byplay the magician has her return the card to a regular sized deck. Your help in identifying the original source as well as routines is much obliged.

User avatar
Richard Kaufman
Posts: 27107
Joined: July 18th, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Theodore DeLand
Location: Washington DC
Contact:

Re: Research Help

Postby Richard Kaufman » April 21st, 2024, 8:25 pm

It can't be any earlier than when jumbo decks were first sold, though it likely seems like a vaudeville or nightclub gag.
Subscribe today to

User avatar
Tom Stone
Posts: 1561
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Research Help

Postby Tom Stone » April 21st, 2024, 8:34 pm

&

Philippe Billot
Posts: 1845
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: PARIS - FRANCE

Re: Research Help

Postby Philippe Billot » April 22nd, 2024, 10:52 am

I haven't The Linking Ring issue, no. 6, June 2004, page 178 but it seems that The duo Petrick & Mia used this idea.

If someone can check...

Philippe Billot
Posts: 1845
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: PARIS - FRANCE

Re: Research Help

Postby Philippe Billot » April 22nd, 2024, 11:08 am

On February 25, 1978, during the Annual Magic Show at Ring One, "Jim Folk located a jumbo card in a normal size deck" but the report doesn't say if it's a gag or a transformation...

PressureFan
Posts: 213
Joined: January 11th, 2015, 4:17 pm
Favorite Magician: Mike Rogers
Location: Pirate, AR

Re: Research Help

Postby PressureFan » April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am

Petrick & Mia, Volume Three - Commercial Magic
'Likes Attract - It begins as a silly experiment as a jumbo card is selected from a normal sized deck. Things get serious, however, as the jumbo card is freely inserted back into the deck and ends up next to its match.'

Edwin Corrie
Posts: 520
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Geneva, Switzerland

Re: Research Help

Postby Edwin Corrie » April 22nd, 2024, 12:02 pm

If memory serves, Supreme Magic in the UK used to sell this as "The World's Greatest Card Trick", though I can't remember who it was credited to. It was in an old catalogue of theirs from around 1978 (orange cover) which I have buried in a box somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.

Philippe Billot
Posts: 1845
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: PARIS - FRANCE

Re: Research Help

Postby Philippe Billot » April 22nd, 2024, 2:13 pm

Good morning, Edwin,

Is there any chance of finding an advertisement in Magigram magazine?

Q. Kumber
Posts: 95
Joined: October 15th, 2019, 3:52 am
Favorite Magician: Tom Whitestone

Re: Research Help

Postby Q. Kumber » April 22nd, 2024, 4:32 pm

The version sold by The Supreme Magic Company was called The World's Craziest Card Trick and is credited to William Giebert of the U.S.A.
Originally published in The Magigram Volume 2, Number 1, 1968.

Philippe Billot
Posts: 1845
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: PARIS - FRANCE

Re: Research Help

Postby Philippe Billot » April 22nd, 2024, 6:33 pm

Thanks Q. Kumber.

The trick is explained page 7 as "A Big Card Trick" by Bill Gebert.
He begins with a "normal deck" but when the spectator takes a card, it's a jumbo card.
Actually, it seems that magician(s) begin with a jumbo deck, then exchange the deck for a "normal" deck and go on with the gag.

Edwin Corrie
Posts: 520
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Geneva, Switzerland

Re: Research Help

Postby Edwin Corrie » April 23rd, 2024, 8:32 am

My bad! Craziest, not Greatest. But I remember always liking the idea of shuffling a jumbo card into a normal pack.
Thanks Quentin. And yes, that was me at The Session whose name you said sounded familiar, and who you showed your Gypsy Curse routine (very nice).


Return to “General”