Multum im Parvo

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John Lovick
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Multum im Parvo

Postby John Lovick » July 4th, 2019, 2:59 am

All the Multum im Parvo sets I've seen look plastic, cheap, ugly, undeceptive, or a combination of. I'm thinking of trying to fashion or manufacture a decent set, but thought I'd ask if nice sets exist that I might be able to find or purchase. Or has anyone ever made their own, and has advice to offer?

Thanks.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Tom Moore » July 4th, 2019, 7:14 am

We looked at doing it about 10 years ago but couldn't find a market to justify it. The maths for calculating the sizes is tricky even when you use simple cylindrical shapes (which is why every version so far uses simple shaped tumblers) but if you want a more natural looking glass you have to do some serious maths.

Our intention was to devise one that had recognisable and /different/ style glasses for each size (a shot glass, a wine glass, a soda glass, a beer glass, a pint glass & a pitcher) so that the props seemed more naturalistic but with hindsight that was probably what made the project too complicated (and thus expensive) to get off the ground for us.
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Re: Multum im Parvo

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Jack Shalom » July 19th, 2020, 10:23 pm

I remember this effect from the magic catalogues. Does the effect go from big to small, or small to big? Or neither?

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Kent Gunn » July 20th, 2020, 11:29 am

Did no one take Latin in high school?

There's no im in Multum in Parvo.

Oh, wait, nobody cares about stuff like this. I'll break out some unedited magic books I have. They'll have many more egregious errors.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Tom Stone » July 20th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Jack Shalom wrote:I remember this effect from the magic catalogues. Does the effect go from big to small, or small to big? Or neither?

There's some info and a demo here:
https://www.martinsmagic.com/allmagic/s ... isto-huis/

And this is mine and my group's take on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EReWswmiBhc

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 20th, 2020, 10:47 pm

Kent, what's Latin?
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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Joe Lyons » July 20th, 2020, 11:31 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Kent, what's Latin?

Duh! It’s an area in Paris
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Evidently named after a language popular in the Middle Ages.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Kent Gunn » July 24th, 2020, 7:15 pm

Yes, there is a famous fourth in Paris.

Nope, Latin had long devolved and was not spoken outside of churches by the middle ages.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby I.M. Magician » July 24th, 2020, 8:02 pm

John Lovick wrote:All the Multum im Parvo sets I've seen look plastic, cheap, ugly, undeceptive, or a combination of. I'm thinking of trying to fashion or manufacture a decent set, but thought I'd ask if nice sets exist that I might be able to find or purchase. Or has anyone ever made their own, and has advice to offer?

Thanks.


I have seen quite a few versions come and go over half a century. They have evolved in some cases into an improved version but I have never seen one I would buy. Nowadays, I no longer desire or purchase parlor/stage props so don’t have an interest in owning a set BUT...if a fantastic set was put on the market at a fair price, I may not be able to resist. I always liked the idea of Multum in Parvo and find it to be a believable illusion.

It would most likely be an expensive outing to design and manufacture a really worthwhile set. I mean really expensive!

Perhaps the way to go is to step out of the box so to speak and come up with a set of not drinking glasses but instead, something like drink pitchers or an object which is not necessarily designed to hold and pour liquids.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Joe Lyons » July 24th, 2020, 9:43 pm

Kent Gunn wrote:Yes, there is a famous fourth in Paris.

Nope, Latin had long devolved and was not spoken outside of churches by the middle ages.


True, except in the fourth.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Kent Gunn » July 25th, 2020, 7:10 am

Joe,

Technically, perhaps you're wrong. I am, however, most certainly a jerk on a regular basis.

Your sense of humor shines through my clouds of trivial nonsense.

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Q. Kumber » July 25th, 2020, 7:29 am

About six months ago I sold two sets similar to the photo above. These had a back ring around each glass to disguise the obvious. I believe the ones I sold came from Max Andrews' Vampire Magic (1950's).

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Joe Lyons » July 25th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Kent Gunn wrote:Your sense of humor shines through my clouds of trivial nonsense.


Kent,
It could be quarantine fatigue, but that sounds as poetic as anything conceived on the Left Bank.
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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Spellbinder » July 28th, 2020, 12:12 am

In our Dollar Store Magic section of The Magic Nook, you'll find an e-Book on DIY Milk Pitcher which also contains other projects made from the same materials, including a set of Multum in Parvo glasses (spelled correctly). You make them yourself from Dollar Store plastic glasses, so they aren't ritzy, but the price is right.
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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby MickNZ » August 4th, 2020, 2:24 am

Multum In Parvo | Definition of Multum In Parvo by Merriam-Webster
mul·​tum in par·​vo | \ ˌmu̇l-tu̇m-in-ˈpär-vō , -ˈpär -wō \. Definition of multum in parvo. : much in a little space

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Richard Hatch » August 4th, 2020, 6:44 pm

Here's Stephen Fry performing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToZ4Z9qlb4k

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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 4th, 2020, 8:43 pm

Thanks, Richard. I've never seen it performed before. It's quite startling!
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Re: Multum im Parvo

Postby Brad Henderson » August 4th, 2020, 8:49 pm

Henning did it on his House of Magic special. Loved that special. Bought a set of the flying bird cage illusion because of it!


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