Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

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Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby erdnasephile » March 23rd, 2022, 12:51 pm

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In Paul Harris' "Color Stunner", there is a sequence at the end of the routine that uses the Depth Illusion to display alternating face up and face down cards. (See: The Magic of Paul Harris, pg 44 and Art of Astonishment, Vol 1, pg 58). The text credits the idea to Mr. Harris.

For some reason, I keep thinking I had read this idea in a previous source. I am working on a routine using this idea and I wanted to make sure to get the credit straight.

Are there any antecedents of applying the Depth Illusion to Triumph published in the literature?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 23rd, 2022, 4:08 pm

A question, perhaps, for Denis Behr.
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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 23rd, 2022, 6:22 pm

Be careful, Color Stunner was first published in 1976 in The Magic of Paul Harris. The Art of Astonisment was published in 1996.

I think David Williamson used the Tilt/Depth for a Triumph but I don't remember the reference. Sorry.

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 23rd, 2022, 6:36 pm

I find one reference:

Off Color NTPT by Ariel Frailich in Linking Ring, Vol. 59, july 1979, page 69.

Credits are quoted: Derek Dingle (Color Triumphant from Dingle's Deceptions) and Paul Harris (for the tilt sequence)

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Jonathan Townsend » March 23rd, 2022, 6:47 pm

Paul Harris's Solid Deception from 1976 "Intimate Secrets".
Mundus vult decipi -per Caleb Carr's story Killing Time

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 24th, 2022, 5:47 am

Sawa's Library of Magic (1988), page 49, Tilted Triumph
The Olram File No. 6 (1991), page 1, Tilt Faro Shuffle (applied to Triumph)

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 24th, 2022, 5:52 am

You can also use Perfect False Riffle Shuffle by Marlo in Expert Card Conjuring (1968), page 3, which is a kind of "Tilt on table"

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby David Ben » March 24th, 2022, 9:08 pm

For what it is worth, I developed an in-the hands false Faro shuffle - a sort of an in-the-hands Zarrow shuffle that used the Depth of Illusion principle - for a routine called Invisible Triumph that appeared in my book Tricks. I had published it much earlier, however, in Apocalypse under the name Robert D. Michael’s, which was a pen-name for routines by Robert (Bob) Farmer, D. (David) and Mike Close and Michael Weber (Michaels), although this one was solely mine. I was not aware of others working along similar lines at the time, and as I don’t have the publication date in Apocalypse at hand, I’ll leave that to others who are interested in this sort of thing to source or cite it.

In the Apocalypse write up I (or it may have been Harry Lorayne) described using Harry’s Non-Faro Faro for the repeat (which really just reassembled an Invisible Deck) when I really used a regular in-the-hands Faro to do just that.

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 25th, 2022, 1:54 am

See Apocalypse, Vol. 09, no. 5, May 1986, page 1207.

In view of all these references, it seems Paul Harris is the first to use the Depth/Tilt in a Triumph.

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Steve Hook » March 25th, 2022, 2:00 am

Aren't we straying off-topic a bit here? Erdnasephile's original question is about the showing of alternately face-up and face-down cards while the deck is in tilt position. This concept was apparently (?) invented by Paul Harris and, for some, popularized by David Williamson's flawless execution in his own routine, which I think was called "Funner Color Stunner".

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Philippe Billot » March 25th, 2022, 3:46 am

Thank Steve,

Funner Color Stunner in his DVD David Williamson's Magic Farm, presented at FISM 2000

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Denis Behr » March 25th, 2022, 5:53 am

Steve is right, using some sort of Tilt in Triumph in other ways does not have much to do with the question, which is about a specific display/convincer sequence. I do not know an older reference than Paul Harris for that.

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby erdnasephile » March 25th, 2022, 9:09 am

Thanks, everyone! Lots of homework to look up here. Appreciate it very much!

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Re: Use of Depth Illusion in Triumph Routine Credit Question

Postby Jack Shalom » March 25th, 2022, 5:53 pm

Jonathan Townsend wrote:Paul Harris's Solid Deception from 1976 "Intimate Secrets".


Jon, that routine uses Tilt, but it is not a Triumph routine.


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