Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

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Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Koudai Iwatou » August 16th, 2019, 6:27 am

Hello, I'm Koudai from Japan.

Here is my new video.
I have a question for you.
Is there a method similar to the double lift turnover used in this magic?

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby David Ben » August 16th, 2019, 5:37 pm

Yes. I believe so. I certainly have one. Mine (unpublished) may be, however, a reconstruction of an unpublished Vernon handling from the 1920s. Of course, unless one sees it live - yours and mine - one can never be sure.

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Anthony Vinson » August 16th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Paul Diamond demoed what appears to be similar, if not the same, back in the mid-80s. I've used it ever since. To the best of my recollection he called it a slippery double, but don't quote me. I don't recall him sharing any provenance.

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Koudai Iwatou » August 18th, 2019, 10:54 pm

Thank you for the information.
There are not many people who know the clear literature.
Many people seem to think about the same thing.
I felt the double lift was still in the wilderness.

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 18th, 2019, 11:07 pm

That Double Lift certainly looks David Ben's.
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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Curtis Kam » August 18th, 2019, 11:55 pm

Without the move being in frame, and the get-ready, if any, shown, it’s hard to distinguish this lift from the technique described as “soft double” in Roger Krause in Concert, which I’ve been told is a Vernon handling of the double lift.


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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Koudai Iwatou » August 19th, 2019, 1:45 am

Thank you for telling me. I thought my idea had been invented by a great man before. I will continue to study and learn.

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Q. Kumber » August 19th, 2019, 9:20 am

Whosever it is, from my perspective it looks very good. I like that you hold the deck vertically to display the card. I am sick to death of magicians performing at waist level or even lower. And don't be ashamed to show your face either.

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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 19th, 2019, 12:20 pm

If you perform for small groups of people who are standing, then hands at waist level is good.
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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 19th, 2019, 9:03 pm

an article? :D Please?
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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 20th, 2019, 12:21 pm

It will be discussed in the Jennings books, but the most essential element is that your misdirection is vertical, not horizontal.
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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Paco Nagata » September 4th, 2019, 11:03 pm

It's a kind of floating double lift. Beautiful and elegant. I use that kind of DL occasionally. I didn't know this one is David Ben's. I'm glad to know it and increase my cultural knowledge.

By the way, Koudai San, nice way to avoid the use of a duplicate. In "Card Manipulations" by Hugard there is a trick called "Invisible Transit" that use the same method, but just placing the card on the deck, whereas you take the deck to the pocket as a way to conceal the movement. CooI.
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Re: Is there a method similar to this double lift turnover?

Postby Curtis Kam » September 5th, 2019, 8:19 pm

The “floating double lift” was briefly described in Ultimate Secrets of Card Magic. More details appear in the Chronicles.


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