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Learned gents,
Despite my searches, I can't track down the name of and creator of the following holdout/switch twingy. I humbly request your assistance.
You hold a packet of, say, eight face-up cards. Unbeknownst to the crowd, four face-down Aces (or whatever cards you wish to force or switch) are beneath the face-up cards. You pick up each face-up card, display it, turn it face down and place it on the bottom of the packet. Eventually, a face-down card appears on top of the packet, indicating that you're back to the first card you displayed. In reality, the four Aces are on top, ready to be secretly introduced for whatever purpose.
Thanks,
Tom
Despite my searches, I can't track down the name of and creator of the following holdout/switch twingy. I humbly request your assistance.
You hold a packet of, say, eight face-up cards. Unbeknownst to the crowd, four face-down Aces (or whatever cards you wish to force or switch) are beneath the face-up cards. You pick up each face-up card, display it, turn it face down and place it on the bottom of the packet. Eventually, a face-down card appears on top of the packet, indicating that you're back to the first card you displayed. In reality, the four Aces are on top, ready to be secretly introduced for whatever purpose.
Thanks,
Tom
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Martin Gardner devised the basic principle used to hide cards in that manner in his effect, “Vanishing and Reappearing Card,” (pp.20-22, 12 Tricks With A Borrowed Deck, L.L. Ireland, 1940).
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There's another Bob thread on this, but in recent years that tactic was reignited by PH's Las Vegas Leaper.
I strongly suspect, with no evidence whatsoever, that something so basic predates Gardner by several decades.
I strongly suspect, with no evidence whatsoever, that something so basic predates Gardner by several decades.
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Lynn Searles used that principle as a force (Jinx 1936) and later on as a change/vanish method in his Cannibal Cards.
Where do we draw a line between between the open card turnover display and the older/classic "faciing the pack" switch where you secretly turn over the pack?
Where do we draw a line between between the open card turnover display and the older/classic "faciing the pack" switch where you secretly turn over the pack?
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Jonathan Townsend wrote:Lynn Searles used that principle as a force (Jinx 1936) and later on as a change/vanish method in his Cannibal Cards.
Where do we draw a line between between the open card turnover display and the older/classic "faciing the pack" switch where you secretly turn over the pack?
Different means to achieve the same or similar ends. Although a significant advantage I can think of re the SearleS and/or Gardner ploy is that, once the 8 cards (or whatever number) are displayed face-up, the packet can be squared and handed to the spec to do the dirty work, and build greatly heightened conviction. This is precisely the ingenuity of Paul Harris' method in the first phase of his, as JHosler noted, Las Vegas Leaper.
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Jonathan Townsend wrote:Lynn Searles used that principle as a force (Jinx 1936) and later on as a change/vanish method in his Cannibal Cards.
You make a reference of the Lynn Searles' Cannibal Cards marketed in 1959 but do you know if this trick has been explained in a book or magazine?
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Philippe Billot wrote:Jonathan Townsend wrote:Lynn Searles used that principle as a force (Jinx 1936) and later on as a change/vanish method in his Cannibal Cards.
You make a reference of the Lynn Searles' Cannibal Cards marketed in 1959 but do you know if this trick has been explained in a book or magazine?
The Magicpedia entry on the trick lists a number of places that it (or variants) have been published.
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Thank you Bill but I speak about the original. All I know is that Searles used a gimmick because after eating cards, the cannibals eat some little objects like paper clip or rubber band.
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Legend also has it that one night when the cannibals were having dinner together, one of them announced, "I hate my mother-in-law!" --
-- to which one of the others responded, "So try the potatoes."
-- to which one of the others responded, "So try the potatoes."
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It uses that count where you turn over a card and put it on the bottom.Philippe Billot wrote:Thank you Bill but I speak about the original. All I know is that Searles used a gimmick ...
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First add in The Linking Ring, Vol. 39, no. 3, March 1959, page 131.
Excerpt:
THE CANNIBAL CARDS
(They Eat Things!)
"They eat razor blades, coins, gum wrappers, paper clips, matches, bills, cigarette butts, rubber bands, and anything else you feed them- including the envelope they come in!
If particularly hungry they even eat each other!"
etc...
If anyone has the original explanation of the trick, thank in advance.
Excerpt:
THE CANNIBAL CARDS
(They Eat Things!)
"They eat razor blades, coins, gum wrappers, paper clips, matches, bills, cigarette butts, rubber bands, and anything else you feed them- including the envelope they come in!
If particularly hungry they even eat each other!"
etc...
If anyone has the original explanation of the trick, thank in advance.
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With the original item in hand: The trick uses a small packet of cards. The instructions walk you through the procedure. If you follow the instructions you might even surprise yourself. Without spoiling the fun for you - the counting procedure, and that packet of cards, does the work.
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MagicbyAlfred wrote:Legend also has it that one night when the cannibals were having dinner together, one of them announced, "I hate my mother-in-law!" --
-- to which one of the others responded, "So try the potatoes."
Legend also has it that the cannibals wouldn't eat clowns --
-- because "they taste funny."
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Thanks for everybody.
Now, I know TWO jokes
Now, I know TWO jokes
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When I read the OP, I instantly thought ATFUS by Marlo.
Am I wrong?
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ATFUS was published in 1964.
There are a lot of switches before in which cards are back to back or face to face at the beginning.
There are a lot of switches before in which cards are back to back or face to face at the beginning.
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Tom Frame wrote:... You pick up each face-up card, display it, turn it face down and place it on the bottom of the packet. ...
ATFUS allows you to count the packet without flipping any cards over.
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And you can switch any card of the packet.
Any Time Face Up Switch
Any Time Face Up Switch
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Forgot to ask about the rest of the deck - whoops.
If the deck is face down below the face up packet you want to display - the action also reads like the Hartman Secret Subtraction
http://www.conjuringcredits.com/doku.ph ... ubtraction
If the deck is face down below the face up packet you want to display - the action also reads like the Hartman Secret Subtraction
http://www.conjuringcredits.com/doku.ph ... ubtraction
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