15 cards can be arranged in 307,674,368,000 ways (factorial 15, 15 X 14 X 13, etc.).
What is the probability that if 15 cards consisting of a royal flush in spades, a royal flush in diamonds and the 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in hearts will, after a random shuffle, end up in this order from top to bottom as the cards are held face down:
5, 6, 7, 8, 9 of hearts, 10, J, Q, K, A of spades, 10, J, Q, K, A of diamonds.
Probability Question

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Is this that old "reverse polynomial factored Fibonacci integer" joke?

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If you want that exact order then of course 1 out of 15 factorial.
But if you don't care about the order within the suits, but do care about all the cards of one suit being together and in that particular suit order, then your probability increases to 120x 120x 120 out of 15 factorial.
But if you don't care about the order within the suits, but do care about all the cards of one suit being together and in that particular suit order, then your probability increases to 120x 120x 120 out of 15 factorial.

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What Jack said. 1 in 15! , or 5! cubed in 15!, depending on your criteria.
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Point of order: It may have been a typo in the original post but for the sake of accuracy in calculations with respect to this probability question, 15! actually works out to equal 1,307,674,368,000.
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When I do that 15! bit I always use the out "Off by 1."
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Would that be 1,307,674,368,000 in the trillions? My math abilities are sadly deficient.
Is there an online calculator for factorials?
Is there an online calculator for factorials?
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The probability will be 50  50. Either it will happen or it won't.
Everything else is horseshoes and hand grenades.
Everything else is horseshoes and hand grenades.
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Re "Is there an online calculator for factorials?"
go to google and type What is 15!
The answer pops up in an online calculator. This is neat!
go to google and type What is 15!
The answer pops up in an online calculator. This is neat!

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Bob wrote:"1,307,674,368,000 in the trillions?"
Yes, one trillion, 307 billion, 674 million, 368 thousand
Easy way to figure is to first segregate the number on the right that is in the hundreds of thousands (in this case 368,000). Then working your way LEFT, the next threedigit number is in the millions (here 674 million) then the next threedigit number is in the billions (here 307 billion) then finally the next number to the left (irrespective of the number of digits) is in the trillions (here one trillion)
Yes, one trillion, 307 billion, 674 million, 368 thousand
Easy way to figure is to first segregate the number on the right that is in the hundreds of thousands (in this case 368,000). Then working your way LEFT, the next threedigit number is in the millions (here 674 million) then the next threedigit number is in the billions (here 307 billion) then finally the next number to the left (irrespective of the number of digits) is in the trillions (here one trillion)

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Wow. That's great. I have a card trick that has once chance in one trillion, 307 billion, 674 million, 368 thousand of being successfulhowever, the magician triumphs and is successful. It will be in a manuscript I'm working on entitled, "Tarodiction." This will include an extensive development of what, up to now, has been a principle that has seen very little, if any use, for magic. Will advise when available. If you are interested in cards, the manuscript will be invaluable.