Patter for Sam the Bellhop

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Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 8th, 2007, 9:18 pm

I am wondering if any of you magicians might know the original patter for Sam the Bellhop. A magician colleague of mine in Victoria showed me the basic set up and shared some of his patter, but there are gaps. Your advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby jerry lazar » June 8th, 2007, 9:54 pm

See Bill Malone's "Sam the Bellhop" video (or his "On the Loose" DVD series). Or David Regal's Constant Fooling book for an original twist. Good luck!

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 8th, 2007, 10:05 pm

Magic Inc. sells the manuscript for a few bucks.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 9th, 2007, 1:09 am

I'm confused as to how you can do the setup without knowing where you are going story-wise. Did you just memorize the order of the setup sans story? Even so, if you have the set up you can make up anything you want to go with it. I'm confused.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 9th, 2007, 5:47 am

Bill Malone's Sam the Bellhop is based on Sam and Moe in The Final Word on Cards by Rufus Steele.

Bill's genius was to add the false shuffles and cuts and to make this not just an entertaining routine but also an amazing magic effect.

Best,
Chris

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Rick Ruhl » June 9th, 2007, 6:49 am

Chris,

Wasnt the title 'The Last word on cards' or is this a different book?

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 9th, 2007, 12:28 pm

Rick, you are correct.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Dustin Stinett » June 9th, 2007, 4:11 pm

By Chris Wasshuber:
Bill's genius was to add the false shuffles and cuts and to make this not just an entertaining routine but also an amazing magic effect.
This might go over like a fart in church, but I am going to disagree. All Mr. Malone did was take the focus away from an amusing story and put it on his clever cuts and shuffles. People are wondering how hes keeping the cards in order. And worse (and I have heard this from a layman), they come away knowing that he can control an entire deck of cards while apparently cutting and shuffling. With this knowledge, nothing else a magician might do appears magical.

In my opinion, Simon Lovell has the right idea in his version wherein he makes it appear as if hes making up a story as hes going. The focus is on the absurd story and Lovells whimsical style.

Dustin

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 9th, 2007, 4:27 pm

This might go over like a fart in church, but I am going to disagree. All Mr. Malone did was take the focus away from an amusing story and put it on his clever cuts and shuffles. People are wondering how hes keeping the cards in order. And worse (and I have heard this from a layman), they come away knowing that he can control an entire deck of cards while apparently cutting and shuffling. With this knowledge, nothing else a magician might do appears magical.
Yes, and it's a miracle that when they have that impression they would ever book him again.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 9th, 2007, 5:53 pm

Joe, I also enjoy Doc Eason's version of this effect so you may want to check that out.

I don't dislike Bill Malone's version as it also has lots of comedy in it just because it is Bill Malone. I don't think many could pull that off even if they used Bill's exact lines and/or mannerism. This would not be the best approach anyway. I think Bill is hysterical and his Sam the Bellhop is funny, even if the shuffles and cuts take a little bit of the humor away from the lines of the story or give the lay audience an out. The version I have seen where he coughs up the cards continually always makes me laugh. I've seen other versions where you appear to make it up on the spot and those can also be funny. Heck, one could just shuffle a deck, maybe rearrange a few cards, and make their own funny story out of it.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 11th, 2007, 9:59 am

Thanks to all of you who responded to my request for information on Sam the Bellhop routine. Ultimtately, I purchased the manuscript by Frank Everhart from Magic Inc. Susan Marshall was kind enough to transmit the pages by facsimile to me. I presented the routine to a some of my friends at a party yesterday. There were smiles and laughs all around. I love this sort of magic.

Be well.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Brandon Hall » June 11th, 2007, 10:46 am

Sam The Bellhop is good, but I do the story of Diamond Jack...I learned it from Diamond Jim but I believe it was from an idea by Whit Haydn.
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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 11th, 2007, 10:56 am

For a different spin, make sure to check out Eric Mead in the DVD "The Aristocrats". Great for kid's show. ;)

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Jim Maloney_dup1 » June 11th, 2007, 11:10 am

FYI: "Diamond Jack" is the creation of Herman Weber, and was first released in 1926. Whit's great, but he's not that old. ;)

-Jim

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 11th, 2007, 12:38 pm

I have seen people that perform this routine using the same three flourishing cuts everytime they deal out cards. I think that this would indeed take way from the overall story and leave the audience with an impression that he is just a good card handler. I think I saw someone on Worlds Greatest Magic TV special do this routine. He used an apparently new deck which I thought helped add to the effect.

But back onto the origanal topic, I think that a false shuffle or two and two or three cuts sprinkled within and throughout the routine helps to reenforce the fact the cards are not prearranged. This makes it magic while keeping it a creative story

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Brandon Hall » June 11th, 2007, 2:13 pm

Thanks for the correction, Jim.
"Hope I Die Before I Get Old"

P. Townshend

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 27th, 2007, 11:24 am

I have seen Steve Wyrick do it years ago at a soft opening to his (then) Sahara Casino Show.
He went thru the routine and somewhere in the middle got the cards all mixed up.
Now get me right, this can happen to everyone, but what came next left me speachless: He put the deck aside, took a new deck and told the audience that he would start over again. If you do that at least do a secret deck switch......

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 27th, 2007, 3:37 pm

That shows you who gets fooled at Steve's shows.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 27th, 2007, 5:54 pm

I believe it was Eric Mead who first suggested the "making it up as you go along" theme for story decks.

Eugene Burger used to do Diamond Jack with a jumbo deck, simply telling folks that there were many such stories, and this was his favorite... His script was a bit different than the original because he wanted the pack to remain in order so he wouldn't have to reset. YOu can find it on his Stevens video along with him doing Coins Thru The Table...

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » June 27th, 2007, 7:10 pm

I believe it was Eric Mead who first suggested the "making it up as you go along" theme for story decks.
Jay Ose used to do this, but not as a "theme", he would have a deck shuffled and ACTUALLY make it up as he went along. Dai Vernon wrote about this in his Genii column.

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Guest » July 4th, 2007, 4:50 pm

Brethren,

At the risk of lowering the tone somewhat - there is a slightly saucy version out there named 'Sam the Call Girl.'

Ideal for that church picnic.

Peace,

Darren

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Re: Patter for Sam the Bellhop

Postby Steve Cook » August 3rd, 2007, 12:45 pm

Check out Wayne Dobson's routine: 'An Englishman in New York', in his 'Dobson's Choice' booklet (No.1). It is based on the 'Sam the Bellhop' routine but, there's are no false shuffles or cuts etc. It's just five minutes or so of great entertainment, that gets BIG laughs! I Highly recommend this routine; simply adapt it to your own personality of course.


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