Card Warp - folded in four

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Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 17th, 2010, 12:48 pm

Good afternoon,

What is the credits history on the phase of card warp where you fold the card in four then pass that folded in four card through the tunnel to have it come out the other way (inside in becomes inside out) ?

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 17th, 2010, 2:20 pm

Jon I've not seen or read of that before.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 17th, 2010, 2:28 pm

I'm pretty sure I've seen a card folded in four at some point used for this, but can't be certain or recall clearly.
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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Mark Collier » August 17th, 2010, 2:46 pm

Bill Goodwin's "Siamese Twins" is a one card Card Warp. The card is folded in fourths and then the changes occur.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Ian Kendall » August 17th, 2010, 2:46 pm

It's not in the original manuscript. Bill Goodwin's Siamese Twins has some similar moves, but with the one card. There was a routine in (I think) Apocalypse which had a single card flipping inside out.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Bob Farmer » August 17th, 2010, 2:46 pm

I've used the folded in four idea, but the card doesn't come out--it vanishes.

However, I think I've seen what Jonathan is describing somewhere.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Ian Kendall » August 17th, 2010, 3:01 pm

Dammit. Great minds again...

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 17th, 2010, 4:16 pm

Richard Osterlind had a card folded in four and it turned inside out, this is where Goodwin got the idea but it does not use the cover card.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 17th, 2010, 6:21 pm

Osterlind's item is listed in volume 4 of his series - is there a printed citation to work from?
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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Edwin Corrie » August 17th, 2010, 6:21 pm

Bob McAllister's "The Fastest Card Trick in the Universe" in Apocalypse, November 1985, is a card folded in four that turns inside out, using a dollar bill. Ken Krenzel's version "Slowed Up" (without the dollar bill) is in the January 1987 issue. Jay Sankey published something similar called "Definitely Warped" in "100% Sankey".

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 17th, 2010, 9:59 pm

No Printed citation, it was on a early VHS tape produced by the dreaded one. LOL!

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 17th, 2010, 10:03 pm

... who is "the dreaded one"?
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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 17th, 2010, 10:14 pm

That's cool - not wanting to invoke the name of the bee that buzzed well but stung many.

Perhaps Richard Osterlind or his delegate would provide some background on that work?

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Philippe Billot » August 18th, 2010, 4:36 am

Is Richard Osterlind's trick named Original Inside Out in DVD Mind Mysteries, Vol. 6 ?

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 18th, 2010, 8:17 am

For reference, the cut/tear in used in the card for Bob McAllister's item is the other way and the item offered outside of context of the Walton trick. If you're keeping indices on this stuff, think of it as a phase in the Walton trick where you put the warpee outside the tunnel and it inverts in a blink ;) :) Thanks Bob. And Harry.

Ken Krenzel's item uses the same tear/cut and loses the bill to have the action take place when you close then open your hand around the card. Jan 87. Again - outside context of the Walton item so add this to the index under 'warpage' as well.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 18th, 2010, 8:26 am

yes that is correct. It was originally on a VHS put out by Jeff Busby (the dreaded one).

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Philippe Billot » August 18th, 2010, 8:45 am

Thanks.

I think the buzy bee VHS was Richard Osterlind Challenge Magic in 1990.

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Robert Meisch » August 19th, 2010, 12:22 pm

Jeff, are you still working on a Card Warp book?

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 19th, 2010, 12:47 pm

I would not hold my breath...

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 19th, 2010, 1:15 pm

Hey Tom Stone - want to put together a warponomicon with that stuff we've kicked back and forth?
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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Tom Frame » August 19th, 2010, 1:53 pm

Jeff Pierce Magic wrote:I would not hold my breath...

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Andrew Pinard » August 20th, 2010, 12:26 am

(He's still waiting for my "Do As I Do" write-up...)

I promise to get it to him one day before the Apocalypse! ;O)

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 20th, 2010, 8:05 am

Is Harry looking to restart Apocalypse?
Apocalypse Again or something like that?
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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby mrgoat » August 20th, 2010, 8:14 am

Apocalypse Now?

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Re: Card Warp - folded in four

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » August 20th, 2010, 12:45 pm

Andrew Pinard wrote:(He's still waiting for my "Do As I Do" write-up...)

I promise to get it to him one day before the Apocalypse! ;O)

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