Sebastien L. wrote:This thread saddens me in a way I can't explain. I am sorry that Mr. Ben stepped into this only to have Mr. Bishop ignore his contribution and his advice.
Hi Sebastian I was not going to post anymore in this thread but since you are the only one on the Genii forum that has put their money down and purchased my book - Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting and block transfer triumphs.
And since the video's that I posted are explained in that book I will respond at this time with an answer. Remember when you gave me advice on my book in an honest way? That is the reason I am responding to this now and trying to answer your question. You to me are what is called a past valued customer. Not only did you put your money down you gave me some very good advice of how to improve the book - and it will be added to the book when I have time - thanks again.
I don't think that anyone in this thread has an investment like that. What most of the posts say - from what I have read is that they watched the video and said things like it was video trash.
Well since you purchased my book and perhaps watched the video please let me take some time to try to explain it to you.
Most of the technical flaws in the original video that I posted in the comments here in this thread were about the speed of the shuffle. And that they (the people watching) could tell that I was looking at the cards as I shuffled slow.
Yes I agree this is what I was doing and this was my intention. I taped the video of me shuffling slow and in a way that a magician could easily tell I was looking at the cards fall as I shuffled.
This may seem kind of strange and I am not making an excuse here. I also covered this in another thread. The reason I was shuffling so slow and being obvious when I was looking at the cards was to show the magician audience that I was indeed doing a cull/stack with the triumph shuffle.
The only way I could have been more obvious in the video was to have the camera behind the riffle shuffle and let them see the faces of the cards as I shuffled.
Well why would I do that?
To show the viewing audience that what I was doing is the triumph shuffle. And I did not just stack the hands and do triumph as a false shuffle. I wanted the magicians watching to see that I was going after cards while culling and stacking.
I wanted to advertise my book using this video and I wanted magicians (not all magicians just some) to see the shuffle that way. Yes - I wanted magicians to know it was the triumph shuffle was being used to cull and stack.
The point of the video was only to show the possibilities of the idea. What can be done. I did not post the video to show how flawlessly I can riffle shuffle at top speed.
Remember in the first part of the book I wrote something like that magicians should be up on false cuts and Erdnase. But then I said something like most of you can most likely do the moves better than I can.
Well there are a lot of magicians that can do card work better than I can. Now if you ask me can I riffle shuffle the deck at a fast speed and not look like I am looking at the cards? When I do this or any other cull with a riffle shuffle?
My answer would be no - not to the satisfaction of the members of this forum and also not to the satisfaction of myself as well. And I was a lot better doing this kind of work in my 20's.
But I would say I have done it under fire and to the satisfaction of some audiences at some shows that I have done. So as I said before in this thread - it has had some road testing and over the years - it will get better.
The best I can say about it is that riffle shuffling at speed and being able to spot the cards is the hardest part for me of any riffle shuffle culling system that I have worked on - and the most positive thing I can say is that it is a work in progress. That will get better I hope in time.
However the real point of the video was to show what was possible.
Sebastien L. wrote:"Glenn Bishop doesn't care because his audience likes what he does. And has the track record of successful shows and clients."
It's nice that you're satisfied with this, but I don't see why you spend so much time here. It seems to me that you consider "I have paid shows and the audience like them" the ultimate argument against any criticism at all.
I often don't care when there is no investment and when what others post sounds to me like an argument. However I do agree that when working it is important to please the client and the audience.
Because that is the job.
And if I may add that if an idea is road tested many times in front of an audience. And it works. And if some magician that rarely performs doesn't like it. Often I care little. Like the story I told above about the trade show magician. The man was working and doing what worked for him.
However when or if a magician might come up to me after I do a show - I am happy to listen to their advice. I would not respond in the way that the trade show magician responded. The reason is that the magician could have been a brother or worked for a future client.
When performing and working for an audience and if there is a magician in the audience I have found that it is good to practice the golden rule. I love talking magic to magicians and if I meet them at a show - I have gotten a lot of great ideas that way.
Now that may seem to contradict what I just said about investment and watching my video. At a show it is different and if I may say it this way to practice the golden rule can help get future bookings and contacts.
Sebastien L. wrote:
I feel like you're here mainly to tell us how successful you are, how great your father was, and how it doesn't matter what anyone else says or think, you get paid and that should shut everyone up. I don't see why people insist on engaging you,
Yes I have had some small success in what I would call the minor league of show business. Not even close to the success my Dad had.
In answer to me talking about my dad and the reason is that if I did not - few would know anything about him. He was a working act and very successful - however few remember him and how great he was - so I talk about him in just about every opportunity.
Now to answer the next part - I would say that yes it does matter what people have said in this thread and I do listen and respond. The magicians that said that I was shuffling the cards very slow and it looked like I was looking at the cards while culling as they fell are right.
I agreed with that a long time ago.
And I have not told anyone on this message board to shut up. And I thank the forum for not locking this thread - and I have no problem with anything that has been said in this thread.
However it would be nice to watch more video to see how another magician might solve these problems that I have addressed about culling and stacking deep and culling and stacking more than one hand. Or have someone write something a little more interesting than what has been covered - about the slowness of the shuffle or that they can see that I am spotting cards to cull in the video.
I think we covered that.
Part of the reason that I responded this last time is that because of your honesty - you would rather talk than argue and I know you are not just baiting me for the sake of argue.
I like your honest opinion you had about my book so I hope I have answered your questions.
I can't speak for the members of this forum about the why they engage me. However I asked others to post video because I would like to see how others solve these problems
Sebastien L. wrote:
I am glad Mr. Ben did and I was able to see a very nice, clean handling of the Stevens Cull.
I hope you will find your time away from internet boards more productive for you and your audience than the time you spent here.
I have not been able to view Mr. Ben's video.
And thanks again for posting giving me a chance to respond. However if you have any more questions please PM me.
May I add thanks for your opinions I will work on my shuffle and perhaps one day I might find it up to speed and post video of it again.