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Glue for playing cards?

Postby erdnasephile » March 22nd, 2024, 5:23 pm

Hello: I have need to repair an old gaff which will involve sticking a flap made of a smooth plastic-coated playing card onto another plastic-coated playing card with a thin strip of adhesive. This needs to be a permanent and a good bond. What glues would you suggest please? Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Steve Hook » March 23rd, 2024, 2:44 am

Hawaii's Craig Matsuoka published a monograph called "The Gaff Factory" in 2007. He used "dry mounting tissue (DMT)" to create his gaffed cards. You could look into that.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Bob Farmer » March 23rd, 2024, 7:26 am

Much better than any glue or dry mounting tissue is this machine:

https://www.amazon.com/Xyron-XRN500EN-C ... 100&sr=8-1

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Tom Frame » March 23rd, 2024, 8:11 am

Years ago, based upon Bob's recommendation, I bought that label-maker. I used it twice and was unhappy with the results. The resultant card is too soft and doesn't have the proper snap.

Then I came to my senses and began using dry mount tissue and a commercial T-shirt press. Dry mount tissue is the gold standard. Accept no substitutes!

Erdnasephile, mail the gaff to me. I'll fix it for the cost of a stamp.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 23rd, 2024, 10:48 am

Derek Dingle made all his gimmicked cards with dry mount tissue.
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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Bill Mullins » March 23rd, 2024, 11:08 pm

Didn't Don England have a gaff-making video? What did he use?

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Steve Hook » March 24th, 2024, 5:16 am

The Gaff Factory: A comprehensive dry-mounting tutorial
by Craig Matsuoka
is available through Lybrary.com:

https://www.lybrary.com/gaff-factory-comprehensive-drymounting-tutorial-p-750.html

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Tom Gilbert » March 24th, 2024, 7:33 am

I was going to mention Lybrary had info on making gaffed cards. Steve beat me to it.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Tom Frame » March 24th, 2024, 7:34 am

Craig's tutorial is very good!

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby kkelly » March 24th, 2024, 9:44 am

Bill Mullins wrote:Didn't Don England have a gaff-making video? What did he use?


bill, in the video you are referring to don used both rubber cement and super 77 spray adhesive. the main reason was the fact that many of his gaffs had small pieces. however, he did make use of my dry mount equipment (which i obtained from ed brown in 1984) when it suited the assembly process.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Bob Farmer » March 24th, 2024, 6:45 pm

Tom is right the sticker machine is no good if your sticking two thin pieces together since there is no center layer. However, I used the Double Decker cards from Card Shark (half as thin as a regular card) and a regular card to make double-facers and double-backers and it works well for that application.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby John M. Dale » March 24th, 2024, 8:19 pm

I have no idea where you can find one and I don’t have myself, but Todd Lassen made the Lassen Card Gaffing Genii which was specifically designed to make gaffs using dry mount from poker sized cards using the genii and an iron to provide the heat.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Bob Farmer » March 25th, 2024, 7:57 am

Yes, the Card Gaffing Genii works great not only for heat but also for aligning cards when using glue. I suggested to Roy Kueppers that he should start making these.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Tom Frame » March 25th, 2024, 11:05 am

I owned and sold two Lassen Card Geniis.

I much prefer Eoin O'Hare's Alignment Jig. It doesn't have a lid. That allows me to use my banding iron to tack the card layers in place before popping it into the T-shirt press.

https://www.theperfectshuffle.com/Aligner-Jig/

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby erdnasephile » March 25th, 2024, 4:51 pm

Thank you, friends, for all your help. (And especially Mr. Frame for offering to fix the gaff--that's really cool of you, Sir!). I also appreciate all of the solid information. (and Bob's tip on the Double Decker cards is genius!)

I am researching dry mount tissue: Is this the stuff ya'll are talking about? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/ ... t_dry.html
Any particular brand work better than others for card gaffing?

Finally, that Eoin O'Hare site has so many great things. Wow.

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Tom Frame » March 25th, 2024, 6:08 pm

Yes, that is dry mount tissue. I'm not familiar with that brand.

This is the excellent brand that I use:

https://www.freestylephoto.com/602-Dand ... 100-Sheets

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Re: Glue for playing cards?

Postby Eoin O'hare » March 31st, 2024, 4:53 pm

Designer & Maker of The Stripper Jig Card Trimmer


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