Frame of Destruction Alert!

[Richard Kaufman]

Frame of Destruction in the package on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/tenyo-the-frame ... 589d3f304d

[edshern]

Play the price is right & guess the final price.
Rule - closest without going over.
All guesses must be posted before March 12th!

THE PRIZE....... bragging rights; & a cool title to
be figured out by someone clever

Hmmmmm- my guess $349

[MagicGraphics]

$157.17.

[MrWizard]

$157.16

[Richard Kaufman]

Ed, I accidentally deleted your most recent post in this topic. Sorry! Still learning the new software.

[Tom Leyland]

OK, since one hasn't been seen in a while, and based on the description, I'm going to say $130ish.

[Angelo Carbone]

$85 ish

[Bill Marquardt]

Okay, but unless one of you guys bid on it just to make a point, I am guessing there will be one bid, it sells for $29.99, or not at all.

Sorry. Actually, I hope I am wrong. I still own some Adams Chinese Linking Rings that are 50 years old.

[Richard Kaufman]

Bill, I really think you're out of touch with the value of certain Tenyo items. Some sell for hundreds of dollars today, and Frame of Destuction can be hard to find.

[Bill Marquardt]

You are correct in that I know next to nothing about Tenyo. That is one aspect of magic or collecting in whuch I never took interest. I just do not believe the typical eBay patron will recognize it as anything but what it looks like, a magic shop wall item. I can be wrong.

I once paid $90.00 for a vintage tin badge that was stamped "Sixth U. S. Cavalry Scout Service" because I wanted it to augment a costume. Everyone says I was crazy, but I am the only guy I know who owns one.

[Tom Leyland]

Bill,

You'll find that Tenyo falls into the "collectable" category (not officially) on eBay and thus prices reflect this. I think you will truly be blown away at how much some Tenyo tricks go for. Like anything collectable, a lot of it has to do with nostalgia. Tenyo is really interesting because you have wonderful magic in one hand and really fun toys in the other. It's really hard for me to buy a Tenyo trick and not open it; lately I have been doing this, but I'm about to go on a rampage opening tricks because I can't stand not playing with them!!

[edshern]

Okay, but unless one of you guys bid on it just to make a point, I am guessing there will be one bid, it sells for $29.99, or not at all.

AND THE WINNER IS: Drum roll please...... A CONTRARIAN!
Going against the grain Bill bids 29.99.
ACTUAL PRICE 69.34
Makes him the closest without going over.
Unfortunately he goes out on a limb and predicts only ONE Bid.
Buzzer sounds on the play. There were 5 bids.

And, poor Richard said "Bill, I really think you're out of touch with the value of certain Tenyo items."

Congrats to Bill Marquardt our CONTRARIAN WHO WINS WITH AN UNDERBID.

In the Hall of Shame is edshern @ $349. What the hell was he drinking?
Whatever it was I want some.

Thanks for playing, Till next time I'm your Host,
Big Ed

[Bill Marquardt]

Up until this afternoon it looked like I would have bragging rights as a True Seer.

Oh, well. I guess you Tenyo guys know what you're doing.

[Richard Kaufman]

Until the moment an eBay auction ends, you can't guess the final price. Sometimes two nuts snipe in the last few seconds and something can shoot up by thousands of dollars in seconds. Tenyo doesn't shoot up thousands of dollars, but other things do.

[Tom Leyland]

Just so you guys know, $66 for Frame of Destruction is a low outlier (meaning an unusually low closing price against its average).

The trick has sold for far more in the past and $66 is not its average closing price.

The only way to place a relatively accurate valuation on Tenyo is to render an average or typical closing price over time after observing many closings for the same Tenyo trick.

Also, worth and value are two different things. People commonly spend far more than they should for things because it's worth it to them.

Relative value is what one should expect to pay for something.

-Tom

[Angelo Carbone]

My bid guess was closer although over

[edshern]

Loud BUZZZZZER sounds----

Foul on the court.
Some Carbone guy claiming closest over all.
Ahhh, Sorry, Rule #1 - without going over, strictly enforced.
No extra credit or recognition of 'closest but no Kewpie Doll'.

Please play again. New contest and the chance for us losers to
try again.

Stay Tuned.

Your Host, judge, jury & executioner

Eddie Spaghetti

[Richard Kaufman]

It's odd to watch the ending prices of Tenyo so all over the map. Things that sell for $300 one day sell for $65 the next. What it means, I think, is that the underbidder often gets lucky.

[Joe Pecore]

Ever used PriceGeek to check market prices?

http://www.thepricegeek.com/results/tenyo/us

[Angelo Carbone]

Doh! Missed the bit about not going over in first post. I should learn to read

[Tom Leyland]

Ever used PriceGeek to check market prices?

http://www.thepricegeek.com/results/tenyo/us

Joe,

This is a great site and basically does what I have been doing manually for the past couple of years. The only problem with this site is a lot of queries aren't available.

What is incredibly revealing is the last 12 closings (samples) for Tenyo has averaged Tenyo across the board closing at $127.50!

[Joe Pecore]

I just noticed PriceGeek does not include items under $100, so that might skew the results and limit the usefulness.

[Tom Leyland]

I just noticed PriceGeek does not include items under $100, so that might skew the results and limit the usefulness.

Yeah, still a good tool for expensive items especially.