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Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 9th, 2013, 11:11 am

Frame of Destruction in the package on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/tenyo-the-frame ... 589d3f304d
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby edshern » March 9th, 2013, 11:25 am

Play the price is right & guess the final price.
Rule - closest without going over.
All guesses must be posted before March 12th!

THE PRIZE....... bragging rights; & a cool title to
be figured out by someone clever :)

Hmmmmm- my guess $349

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby MagicGraphics » March 9th, 2013, 11:32 am

$157.17.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby MrWizard » March 9th, 2013, 11:41 am

$157.16 :mrgreen:

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 9th, 2013, 11:44 am

Ed, I accidentally deleted your most recent post in this topic. Sorry! Still learning the new software.
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Tom Leyland » March 9th, 2013, 1:49 pm

OK, since one hasn't been seen in a while, and based on the description, I'm going to say $130ish.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Angelo Carbone » March 9th, 2013, 3:32 pm

$85 ish

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Bill Marquardt » March 9th, 2013, 4:52 pm

Okay, but unless one of you guys bid on it just to make a point, I am guessing there will be one bid, it sells for $29.99, or not at all.

Sorry. Actually, I hope I am wrong. I still own some Adams Chinese Linking Rings that are 50 years old.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 9th, 2013, 5:32 pm

Bill, I really think you're out of touch with the value of certain Tenyo items. Some sell for hundreds of dollars today, and Frame of Destuction can be hard to find.
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Bill Marquardt » March 9th, 2013, 6:49 pm

You are correct in that I know next to nothing about Tenyo. That is one aspect of magic or collecting in whuch I never took interest. I just do not believe the typical eBay patron will recognize it as anything but what it looks like, a magic shop wall item. I can be wrong.

I once paid $90.00 for a vintage tin badge that was stamped "Sixth U. S. Cavalry Scout Service" because I wanted it to augment a costume. Everyone says I was crazy, but I am the only guy I know who owns one.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Tom Leyland » March 9th, 2013, 9:50 pm

Bill,

You'll find that Tenyo falls into the "collectable" category (not officially) on eBay and thus prices reflect this. I think you will truly be blown away at how much some Tenyo tricks go for. Like anything collectable, a lot of it has to do with nostalgia. Tenyo is really interesting because you have wonderful magic in one hand and really fun toys in the other. It's really hard for me to buy a Tenyo trick and not open it; lately I have been doing this, but I'm about to go on a rampage opening tricks because I can't stand not playing with them!! :mrgreen:

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby edshern » March 15th, 2013, 8:49 pm

Bill Marquardt wrote:Okay, but unless one of you guys bid on it just to make a point, I am guessing there will be one bid, it sells for $29.99, or not at all.


AND THE WINNER IS: Drum roll please...... A CONTRARIAN!
Going against the grain Bill bids 29.99.
ACTUAL PRICE 69.34
Makes him the closest without going over.
Unfortunately he goes out on a limb and predicts only ONE Bid.
Buzzer sounds on the play. There were 5 bids.

And, poor Richard said "Bill, I really think you're out of touch with the value of certain Tenyo items."

Congrats to Bill Marquardt our CONTRARIAN :) WHO WINS WITH AN UNDERBID.

In the Hall of Shame is edshern @ $349. What the hell was he drinking?
Whatever it was I want some.

Thanks for playing, Till next time I'm your Host,
Big Ed

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Bill Marquardt » March 16th, 2013, 1:28 am

Up until this afternoon it looked like I would have bragging rights as a True Seer.

Oh, well. I guess you Tenyo guys know what you're doing.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 16th, 2013, 10:53 am

Until the moment an eBay auction ends, you can't guess the final price. Sometimes two nuts snipe in the last few seconds and something can shoot up by thousands of dollars in seconds. Tenyo doesn't shoot up thousands of dollars, but other things do.
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Tom Leyland » March 16th, 2013, 12:00 pm

Just so you guys know, $66 for Frame of Destruction is a low outlier (meaning an unusually low closing price against its average).

The trick has sold for far more in the past and $66 is not its average closing price.

The only way to place a relatively accurate valuation on Tenyo is to render an average or typical closing price over time after observing many closings for the same Tenyo trick.

Also, worth and value are two different things. People commonly spend far more than they should for things because it's worth it to them.

Relative value is what one should expect to pay for something.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Angelo Carbone » March 17th, 2013, 10:01 am

My bid guess was closer although over ;-)

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby edshern » March 17th, 2013, 12:06 pm

Loud BUZZZZZER sounds----

Foul on the court.
Some Carbone guy claiming closest over all.
Ahhh, Sorry, Rule #1 - without going over, strictly enforced.
No extra credit or recognition of 'closest but no Kewpie Doll'.

Please play again. New contest and the chance for us losers to
try again.

Stay Tuned.

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 17th, 2013, 12:06 pm

It's odd to watch the ending prices of Tenyo so all over the map. Things that sell for $300 one day sell for $65 the next. What it means, I think, is that the underbidder often gets lucky.
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Joe Pecore » March 17th, 2013, 12:19 pm

Ever used PriceGeek to check market prices?

http://www.thepricegeek.com/results/tenyo/us
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Angelo Carbone » March 17th, 2013, 12:20 pm

Doh! Missed the bit about not going over in first post. I should learn to read :lol:

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Tom Leyland » March 17th, 2013, 3:32 pm

Joe Pecore wrote:Ever used PriceGeek to check market prices?

http://www.thepricegeek.com/results/tenyo/us


Joe,

This is a great site and basically does what I have been doing manually for the past couple of years. The only problem with this site is a lot of queries aren't available.

What is incredibly revealing is the last 12 closings (samples) for Tenyo has averaged Tenyo across the board closing at $127.50!

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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Joe Pecore » March 17th, 2013, 3:42 pm

I just noticed PriceGeek does not include items under $100, so that might skew the results and limit the usefulness.
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Re: Frame of Destruction Alert!

Postby Tom Leyland » March 17th, 2013, 8:00 pm

Joe Pecore wrote:I just noticed PriceGeek does not include items under $100, so that might skew the results and limit the usefulness.


Yeah, still a good tool for expensive items especially.


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