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Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 11th, 2016, 1:59 pm
by Jackpot
I took a coin and visited a local thrift store. Used the coin to test glasses to get the proper size and action when pouring the coin out.


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Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 11th, 2016, 2:26 pm
by Joe Mckay
Neat idea!

Cheers!

Joe

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 12th, 2016, 1:27 am
by Bill Duncan
Those looking for a coin set should check out Roy Kuppers's site. If you scroll down, he has a "common" sets as well as Morgans, Walking Liberty an the like.

American Half, Canadian Twonie, or Ike dollars.

http://www.roykueppers.com/nonlockingcoins.html

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 13th, 2016, 1:32 pm
by Tom Gilbert
I'm using the glass that came with Kainoa Harbottle's Victorian Coins and Glass. As a side note regarding coins from Roy Kueppers, on the "other" forum there's been talk for years about inconsistent quality and customer service. Your mileage may vary.

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 13th, 2016, 5:23 pm
by Joe Mckay
Yeah - that glass would be perfect.

And that trick itself is a great one as well.

Thanks so much for this tip. I was looking for another reason to push me towards getting that trick.

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 18th, 2017, 8:13 pm
by Steve Mills
Sorry to revive this thread, as I'm sure a trick this old is now considered antiquarian.

Anyway, I'm have a devil of a time making the initial flip in the glass a sure thing. Maybe I've got the wrong glass or maybe I'm just a klutz.

Is anyone that is performing this willing to give me a tip or two?

Thanks

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 18th, 2017, 8:17 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Have you watched the video in the digital edition?

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 18th, 2017, 8:31 pm
by Steve Mills
Embarrassingly, I have. Many times. It seems he gives the glass a quick jerk and it flips 180 neatly. Ii shouldn't be tough!

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 18th, 2017, 9:44 pm
by Richard Kaufman
I've seen him do it: it's a knack. Keep trying. One day it will just happen.

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 19th, 2017, 2:27 pm
by Ian Kendall
It's a while since I wrote this up, but here are some thoughts on the first change...

It's nice to have the right kind of glass; you need to find one with a curved base _on the inside_. If the bottom of the glass has a severe transition between the bottom and the sides, the move becomes a lot harder. The one I have at the moment is a Nutella jar glass. If you only have a straight edged glass, the technique becomes slightly different (but I'll come to that). Also, you don't want the glass to be too much larger than your coin at the base - this also causes some issues.

Let's assume you have glass, and the coin is in the bottom. Tilt the glass forward (so the mouth is away from you) about ten degrees (that is to say, not much). We are going to do it this way to avoid flashing the bottom of the coin though the glass - a small chance, but it's there. If you look into the glass, you will see that the edge of the coin will be up against the bottom of the side. Ideally, you want the coin to begin to rise up the edge. Now, make a sharp movement _backwards_ with your hand - moving the thumb in a straight line towards your body. Resist the urge to look into the glass, as this will bring the mouth back to the vertical, and the change is harder to do. The coin will slide back to the near edge, hit it and because of the angle of the glass, it will flip over. Because the diameter of the glass is quite tight on the coin, and you don't jerk your hand back too fast, the coin will make only one flip. If it _does_ end up the same way, just flick it again.

Now, if you have a round bottomed glass, things are much easier. You can hold the glass upright, and make a short, horizontal movement forward and back. The coin will slide up the curved edge, and flip.

I'll try to get a video to explain this. I suspect that the problem is a flat bottomed glass. Check back in an hour :)

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 19th, 2017, 3:28 pm
by Ian Kendall
This might help

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https://youtu.be/-lqLbQcY9CM

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Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: April 19th, 2017, 5:42 pm
by Steve Mills
Ian,

Thank you so much!

Very kind of you to take the time and trouble to do that.

I can already see some improvement, especially when I tilt as you suggested.

Steve

PS The more I work on this, the more I think the glass is part of the issue. I believe what I have may be too small in diameter. What is a Nutella jar glass?

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: June 22nd, 2017, 6:48 pm
by rpmagicshop
Kainoa Harbottle 's Victorian Glass would work maybe, had him lecture at my store in Jan, incredible coin magician

Re: 3 Coins and a Shotglass

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 1:42 pm
by webbmaster
I found the line 'a little silver mixed with a little copper makes brass' to be useful even if it isn't true. Maybe it is. If you can use the line in your patter, feel free.