need help with reference

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kevinygao
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need help with reference

Postby kevinygao » August 4th, 2020, 6:03 pm

didn't know where else to ask questions about referencing.

Are there sources in print that talk about using double stick tape inside a card box as a holdout to retain cards?
I know that Braue in his "The Fred Braue Notebooks" uses wax stuck inside the box to hold back cards, which is an old reference, but I couldn't find any sort of more recent source that uses the tape instead, and it seems like a technique that digital content doesn't bother with crediting. Much appreciated.

Frank Yuen
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Re: need help with reference

Postby Frank Yuen » August 4th, 2020, 9:35 pm

I don't personally think changing the adhesive used would warrant crediting at all. I'd go with the Braue reference unless someone comes up with something earlier.

Philippe Billot
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Re: need help with reference

Postby Philippe Billot » August 5th, 2020, 1:53 am

Here is an earlier reference:

The Magician Monthly, Vol. 25, no 3, february 1929, Booth's Card-N-Corner Mystery, page 29.

kevinygao
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Re: need help with reference

Postby kevinygao » August 5th, 2020, 2:57 pm

thanks, Philippe!

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Re: need help with reference

Postby Jonathan Townsend » August 5th, 2020, 4:04 pm

There is much to be said about craftsmanship and engineering, e. g. making long cards or an expanded coin shell, that merits "credit".

So, is there a credit to be had for applying roughing fluid to the inside of the box too? How about Science Friction specifically?


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