Line O' Type
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Line O' Type
Is Harry Lorayne the creator of the principle explains in The Magic Book (1977) page 224 or is there an anteriority ?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Philippe, comment ça va?
I'm sure this in lots of books for children, but on looking I only found a couple - Newspaper Prediction in "Close-up Magic" (1974) by Harry Baron, and The Want Ad Test in "Self-Working Mental Magic" (1979) by Karl Fulves. Unfortunately no mention of the creator.
I'm sure this in lots of books for children, but on looking I only found a couple - Newspaper Prediction in "Close-up Magic" (1974) by Harry Baron, and The Want Ad Test in "Self-Working Mental Magic" (1979) by Karl Fulves. Unfortunately no mention of the creator.
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See "Mental Marvels" by Albert Cohn in Hugard's Magic Monthly, Dec 1945, p. 171.
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All right, Thank you Messieurs
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EdwinCorrie wrote:Hi Philippe, comment ça va?.
Ça va très bien, et vous ?
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Bill Mullins wrote:See "Mental Marvels" by Albert Cohn in Hugard's Magic Monthly, Dec 1945, p. 171.
Bien aussi, merci.
Unless I'm missing something, this seems to be a thumb writer routine. Line o' Type is the one where you cut a strip of newspaper at any chosen point but because it's held upside down the first line (apparently the one cut at) is the original top line, which was predicted.
It does seem like the kind of trick you'd find in HMM or Phoenix, though at the same time it has a quite modern feel to it.
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Bill Mullins wrote:See "Mental Marvels" by Albert Cohn in Hugard's Magic Monthly, Dec 1945, p. 171.
I'm sorry, Cohn's trick is a predecessor to "I've Got Your Number" on p. 227 (the trick where you force 37 by "any number from 1-50, both digits different, both digits odd"). I don't have anything for "Line O'Type".
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Nobody is perfect (as Jack Lemmon said in Like It Hot)
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Big mistake, it's not Jack Lemmon but Joe E. Brown who said this famous replica
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Philippe Billot wrote:Big mistake, it's not Jack Lemmon but Joe E. Brown who said this famous replica
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Re: Line O' Type
The history of this is in conjuring archive, but I can't find it at the moment.
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Philippe check The Gen Volume 20 No. 6 October 1964
Newspaper Test by Albert Spackman.
Also check Clip Line in Minds in Closeup by Jack Yates 1954
Newspaper Test by Albert Spackman.
Also check Clip Line in Minds in Closeup by Jack Yates 1954
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I couldn't find it in Conjuring Credits either. But I did find a wonderful semi-related effect in Karl Fulves "Big Book of Magic" (1977) called How to Predict the Super Bowl (p. 137). It's not really the same, but the principle is similar. It's said to be based on an idea by Richard Himber, though I don't know whether that's a reference to the cutting part or the dual prediction.
I don't have The Gen (only odd issues) or the Jack Yates book, but Joe's references sound promising.
I don't have The Gen (only odd issues) or the Jack Yates book, but Joe's references sound promising.
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Re: Line O' Type
If it’s the bit with the news paper held upside down for the force of a line the credit belongs to Spackman. (Per Max when from I was writing something about it several years ago)
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Re: Line O' Type
Joe Lyons wrote:Philippe check The Gen Volume 20 No. 6 October 1964
Newspaper Test by Albert Spackman.
Also check Clip Line in Minds in Closeup by Jack Yates 1954
Thanks Joe
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Brad Henderson wrote:If it’s the bit with the news paper held upside down for the force of a line the credit belongs to Spackman. (Per Max when from I was writing something about it several years ago)
I have not yet check Jack Yates because I wasn't in my home but if his trick "Clip Line" uses the same principle, he is prior to Spackman
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I know The Gen is good because I have it.
I don’t have the Yates booklet so you’ll have to check it to see if it’s the same principle.
Either way I think it’s from Spackman.
I don’t have the Yates booklet so you’ll have to check it to see if it’s the same principle.
Either way I think it’s from Spackman.
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Richard Kaufman wrote:The history of this is in conjuring archive, but I can't find it at the moment.
This is probably the page Richard is referring to.
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In Conjuring Archive, they refer to "Clip Line" in Six Columns by Al Mann (1982) and Al Mann attributes the principle to Albert Spackman.
Yates' method is different.
So, you are right Joe Lyons.
Thank again.
Yates' method is different.
So, you are right Joe Lyons.
Thank again.