Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Bob Farmer » September 30th, 2020, 8:49 am

Good point, Jack. You can find some great animated brain gifs on Gryphy.

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 1st, 2020, 2:00 pm

For your amusement, ten more mnemonics.

For the ten 2-3 splits, we’ll focus on the people in the group of 2.
Notice that the words related to the people (such as ABalone, ACorn, etc.) are all related to the Natural world. That will be an important clue to remember, as later, we’ll use other categories for other kinds of partition splits.

[A,B] [C,D,E]--> Imagine an ABalone shell made of TiN, 12
[A,C] [B,D,E]--> Imagine an ACorn stuck in a LaSso, 50.
[A,D] [B,C,E]--> Imagine an ADult with a NaiL sticking in his eye, 25
[A,E] [B,C,D,]--> Imagine the AEgean sea flying out of your Jaw, 6
[B,C] [A,D,E] --> Imagine a BuCk holding in its teeth a ToT, 11
[B,D] [A,C,E] --> Imagine a BuD opening up and revealing a DiSH, 16
[B,E] [A,C,D,] --> Imagine a BEe on skis from NoRway, 24
[C,D] [A,B,E] --> Imagine a CoD standing on his ToeS, 10
[C,E] [A,B, D] --> Imagine a CEntaur biting his own TaiL, 15
[D,E] [A,B,C] --> Imagine a DEer enveloped in Goo, 7

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 2nd, 2020, 11:34 am

For the ten 2-1-1-1 splits, we’ll also focus on the people in the group of 2.
This time the words related to people will be only place names. Of course, these associations may not work for you, adjust as needed.

[A,B] [C],[D],[E]--> ABbey Road with your MoM in line with the Beatles, 33
[A,C] [B],[D],[E]--> ACapulco with constant RaiN spoiling your vacation, 42
[A,D] [B],[C],[E]--> ADirondacks with you grasping onto the RaiL so as not to fall, 45
[A,E] [B],[C],[D,]--> AEgean Islands with all the inhabitants in a RaGe, 46
[B,C] [A],[D],[E] --> BoCa Raton, being swallowed by MaN-eating sharks, 32
[B,D] [A],[C],[E] --> BuDapest, a MaP where it is the only city, 39
[B,E] [A],[C],[D,] -->BEirut, a city full of sheep and RaMs, 43
[C,D] [A],[B],[E] --> Cape CoD, and all I got was this lousy Cape Cod MaT, 31
[C,E] [A],[B], [D] -->CEntral America, in the middle of the revolution, stuck on the RooF, 48
[D,E] [A],[B],[C] --> DEnmark riding through it like a Viking on a MaRe, 34

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 2nd, 2020, 4:32 pm

For the ten 3-1-1 splits, we’ll focus on the two singletons
This time the words related to people will be only males’ names. Of course, these associations may not work for you, adjust as needed.

[A] [B] [C,D,E] --> ABe Lincoln studying the Law, 5
[A] [C], [B,D,E] --> AChilles knocking out NoaM chomsky , 23
[A] [D] [B,C,E] --> ADam kNiFing the serpent, 28
[A] [E] [B C,D] --> AEschylus traveling forward in TiMe, 13
[B] [C] [A,D,E] --> BeCkett as a waiter waiting for a TiP, 19
[B] [D] [A,C,E] --> BuD Collyer, with a RoSe in his buttonhole, 40
[B] [E] [A,C,D] --> BEn Franklin, we shall all hang separately by the NecK, 27
[C] [D] [A,B,E] --> Buffalo Bill CoDy MocKs Indians, 37
[C] [E] [A,B,D] --> CEcil Taylor is taking a NaP inside his piano, 29
[D] [E] [A,B,C] --> DEan Martin, drunk, saying “Moo”, 3

Almost there!

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 2nd, 2020, 5:03 pm

Whoops. two more corrections from my original list of 52 partitions:
Should read:
*35. [A E] [C D] [B]
*38 [A D] [C E] [B]

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 2nd, 2020, 9:03 pm

And finally, for the remaining fifteen 1-2-2 splits, we’ll focus on the singleton, and then the duo that has in it the remaining letter closest to the beginning of the alphabet.

The list below is arranged so that you are identifying by the first singleton and first duo.

The duo will associate the people groups to only manmade colored objects. The color of the objects will be determined by the singleton letter:
A-AMBER
B-BLUE
C-CHERRY
D-DARK BROWN
E- EMERALD
This will become more clear as you look at the chart.

Of course, these associations may not work for you, adjust as needed.


[A] [B C] [D E] --> Amber BuCket full of Poo, 9
[A] [B D] [C E] --> Amber BeD in my RoBe, 49
[A] [B,E] [C D] --> Amber BEer up my NoSe, 20
[B] [A C] [D,E] --> Playing with Blue ACes at MaSs, 30
[B] [A D] [C E] --> Blue ADding machine in the MoVie, 38
[B] [A E] [C D] --> Blue AEneid just arrived in the MaiL, 35
[C] [A B] [D E] --> Cherry A-Bomb shooting out an aRrow, 4
[C] [A D] [B E] --> Cherry ADe causes an auRoRa, 44
[C] [A E] [B D] --> Cherry AErosol spray obscures the RoaD, 41
[D] [A B] [C E] --> Dark Brown ABacus with oNioNs, 22
[D] [A C] [B D] --> Dark Brown ACropolis with a DoVe on top, 18
[D] [A E] [B C] --> Dark Brown AEroplane full of MaGic tricks, 36
[E] [A B] [C D] --> Emerald ABattoir in which my Foe is hiding, 8
[E] [A C] [B D] --> Emerald ACcord which my DoG loves to drive,17
[E] [A D] [B C] --> Emerald ADhesive tied in kNoTs, 21

Believe me, this is not much harder than learning a full stack. I've already got it down rudimentarily.
Of course you also have to also memorize the order of the initial stack, something which I am in no hurry to do.
But as a proof of concept it is do-able without a crib, etc.

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Bill Mullins » October 3rd, 2020, 4:17 pm

If the contacts list in your phone has speech recognition, you could say a code name, and have it release a phone number which reveals the cards.

Instead of using A-E for the five people, use B, C, D, F, G* so you have consonants that you can fill with vowels. Jack Shalom's "Emerald ADhesive tied in kNoTs = 21" becomes G BF CD or Go BufF CoD (or "Gay Bev Cadd", if you want it to sound more like a person's name). Say "My clairvoyant friend will help us. Let me call her up. " Say "Go BufF CoD" into your phone's contacts. Depending on what you've mapped into the Diaconis Stack, probably a memorized deck you already know, the five cards starting at postion #21 are (for example) your stack numbers 8, 22, 49, 17, and 36. So your phone displays a phone number: (082) 249 - 1736. You fake a call to your friend, telling her that spectator Erin stands alone, while Alice and David stand together, as do Bob and Carol. Your friend "tells" you the names of the five cards, but which in reality you are revealing from the phone number -- the five cards in your stack associated with the five positions encoded in the phone number.

*It might be better to use the consonants H, N, R, S, T, as these are the five most common consonants in English, and would make it easier to form words.

So to perform this trick, you need a phone that does the necessary; to transcribe a stack you already now into Diaconis's arrangement of suits; and to set up 52 "names" and associated "phone numbers" in your phone's contact list.

This would involved a bit of work on the front end, but no new memorization (assuming you already know a stack).

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 4th, 2020, 2:50 pm

Spreadsheets allow you to have a couple of columns off to the side (or a separate page) for lookup data.
There's a VLOOKUP() function to let you type in something and get data. In this case the order of people and a space between groups.
Would a home page/desktop shortcut to a spreadsheet; which takes you to a cell that has lookup validation work?

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 5th, 2020, 6:26 pm

Bob Farmer and Jack Shalom have email. Attached an excel file with one cell for data entry, one to display a lookup value, and two columns of data. That's a worked example of VLOOKUP if folks are curious.

* now about those triplets wearing the same outfits. :D

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Re: Is Persi Diaconis Having Us On?

Postby Jack Shalom » October 6th, 2020, 7:43 am

With regard to triplets, the observant performer will notice that one will always be shorter than the others, a second will have a different skin color than the others, and the third will speak with a noticeably Austrian accent. See, for example, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334867/fu ... cl_sm#cast

For those wanting to pursue Path Cribless, I point out that because the associations need to go in only one direction, the whole process is actually no more difficult than properly memorizing a stack:

Compare:
Spec Groupings-->Card Number-->Card Name
to
Card Number -->Card Name-->Card Number


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