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This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 3:43 am
by Marcpaulfan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJ2G9-VC2s
Dear kaufman please write me..
ps:is an italian video.
thank you so much.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 7:07 am
by mrgoat
And you're selling that for only 120 USD? Brilliant.

Where do we send the money?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 7:28 am
by Ian Kendall
I think he's using one way backs...

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 9:01 am
by Marcpaulfan
??????????

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 9:23 am
by mrgoat
Marcpaulfan wrote:??????????

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Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 9:37 am
by Marcpaulfan
i don't understand..i want know if this is the berglas effect...sorry for disturb

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 10:04 am
by Richard Kaufman
This is the same guy who was carrying on here a few weeks ago and posting in all caps.

No, that's not the Berglas Effect.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 10:26 am
by Marcpaulfan
ok thanks a lot!!!
but is very impressive...
kaufman your book?when?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 10:51 am
by Richard Kaufman
No, your handling is not very impressive, particularly when you claim to sell it for $120.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 11:17 am
by mrgoat
Richard Kaufman wrote:This is the same guy who was carrying on here a few weeks ago and posting in all caps.

No, that's not the Berglas Effect.


No, two different guys. The last one was French, this is an Italian. Must be something about europeans not understanding that the Berglas Effect is not simply a one method ACCAN and also not knowing where caps lock is. Weird.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 12:07 pm
by Richard Kaufman
I thought the other guy was Italian as well?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 1:09 pm
by mrgoat
No. I am sure he was French.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 4:23 pm
by AnthonyBrahams
I think it was Philippe Billot.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 5:26 pm
by Philippe Billot
Are you kidding?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 5:36 pm
by AnthonyBrahams
Sorry, I must have been thinking of a helpful posting from M. Billot which must have been in another thread.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 6:23 pm
by NCMarsh
Thanks to the handy search function we learn that Stefano Nobile is the gentleman in question and that he is likely italian (Many of the comments he writes on the YouTube video -- the first one is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J-PT2RfEsc -- are in Italian. His first post is here: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... 78/fpart/1 .

When I am on my deathbed, facing my last ten minutes in this world, at least I'll know that the ten spent tracking this information down were wisely used...

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 4th, 2010, 7:43 pm
by Richard Kaufman
aha! It is the same guy.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 12:55 am
by John M. Dale
mrgoat wrote:No. I am sure he was French.


What is it about you English guys? Always trying to blame the French (or is it the Germans?)

JMD

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 3:32 am
by Ian Kendall
For what it's worth, we tend to blame the English.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 6:17 am
by mrgoat
NCMarsh wrote:Thanks to the handy search function we learn that Stefano Nobile is the gentleman in question and that he is likely italian (Many of the comments he writes on the YouTube video -- the first one is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J-PT2RfEsc -- are in Italian. His first post is here: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... 78/fpart/1 .

When I am on my deathbed, facing my last ten minutes in this world, at least I'll know that the ten spent tracking this information down were wisely used...


Hehe. OK, I am wrong. I was sure the other chap was French. Sorry Richard for making you doubt your sanity!

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 8:21 am
by Jonathan Townsend
Marcpaulfan wrote:i don't understand..i want know if this is the berglas effect...sorry for disturb


Perhaps better to ask Mr. Berglas if he's authorized anyone (or that person in particular) to go selling a version of his trick?

Monkey see, monkey do ... call it the what?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 10:19 am
by Richard Kaufman
Any Card at Any Number is ancient. The Berglas Effect simply adds restrictions to it. David does not have any rights to the effect other than the version he uses.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 10:47 am
by Bill Mullins
He certainly would have some proprietary interest in the name "The Berglas Effect" -- unless you have his blessing, it should be called something else.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 5th, 2010, 8:38 pm
by Larry Horowitz
Richard is correct ACAAN is ancient. However.......

After exhaustive research and expenditure of monies I have obtained the exclusive rights to "Card At Position 13".

This is now MINE!!!!

Please contact me for franchise purchase information.

Mr Goat will be allowed right of first refusal on all British proposals. (he will also be building the website)

(Italian requests must be submitted in French)

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 1:22 am
by Bill Mullins
Mike Close tells us that one should not release a variant trick unless it is an improvement in effect, method or presentation. I have done all three with "Card at Position 15"!!!

Effect -- Position 15 is two cards more astounding than Position 13

Method -- My method is better. So there.

Presentation -- Think of all the presentational opportunities available with "15" that simply don't exist with "13".

As soon as I can get an edgy video of this MIRACLE onto youtube, I expect to sell out of limited edition ebooks. Order now.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 2:45 am
by Larry Horowitz
Bill,

Would you consider a partnership on position 14?

Though I don't yet have the method worked out, I would be able to bring to the deal a NEW deck of cards.

Larry

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 3:09 am
by Denis Behr
Bill Mullins wrote:Mike Close tells us that one should not release a variant trick unless it is an improvement in effect, method or presentation.

To set the record straight, he quotes Darwin Ortiz here from his excellent introduction in Cardshark.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 7:57 am
by Jonathan Townsend
IMHO the rationalizations for making claims on variations are missing the word "significant". And that very notion tends to inform my opinion of those who offer such items.

I shall claim card at 52, "The Bottom Line", "It's Yours, Face It". So many things one can say about 52 and its factors. ;) May well be the epitome of evolution on that - as there's not much further one can descend with modification.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 8:57 am
by Jonathan Townsend
* Hold the presses... adding "Face Up Rise and Shine" and "Slacker Card" to that list of "card at 52" variations. Since the first is a face up application - it's a significant variation and worthy of it's own ebook. ;)

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 12:08 pm
by Brian Marks
I always thought the Berglas effect was to see how people could market an amazing AACAN version.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 4:15 pm
by Jonathan Townsend
What is AACAN trick? Is there a video?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 4:52 pm
by Necromancer
Any Anvil Clobbers Any Numismatist?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 5:39 pm
by John Signa
Brian Marks wrote:I always thought the Berglas effect was to see how people could market an amazing AACAN version.


And every one of them is the ultimate version.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 6th, 2010, 6:21 pm
by Tom Frame
Not surprisingly, my next review is of Tim Ellis's version of ACAAN. They're coming out of the woodwork!

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 1:41 pm
by Stan Willis
I have to wonder if this trend will continue after the publication of David Berglas's Card Magic?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 1:43 pm
by Jonathan Townsend
Is the entire/complete explanation of how DB does his ACAAN in the new book that RK says he's working on?

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 1:52 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Stan, Jon: There is a 20,000 word chapter on The Berglas Effect in my current draft of the book. I can guarantee that it will generate a lot of conversation.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 2:40 pm
by Richard Kaufman
I don't see that Jon's recitation of what Mickey Silver did has any bearing on the book I'm writing.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 2:58 pm
by Jonathan Townsend
Guess I'm being a bit of a grouch about magic ad copy today. :( I'll blame my allergies. Sorry.

I've been waiting to explore the ACAAN effect till the guy who's made it his own choses to share his work.

Re: This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Posted: April 7th, 2010, 5:17 pm
by NCMarsh
Jon, do you mean that you are waiting for Berglas to publish his work? He has.

While I'm very interested to read the Kaufman write-up, let's not pretend that the piece is unpublished -- there is a long write-up in the Britland book.

N.