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MENTAL EPIC

Posted: December 3rd, 2008, 11:29 am
by 000
Anyone care to comment on the merits/demerits of the following
Astor Mental Epic and Supreme Slate of Mind ?
Thanks

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: December 3rd, 2008, 12:37 pm
by David Prouty
I have a Supreme Slate of Mind (which I don't use), and I saw Astor perform his Mental Epic at Fechter's last April. Astor's version is by far superior in every aspect (IMHO), and its price reflects that.

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: December 3rd, 2008, 7:35 pm
by Joe M. Turner
Can the performer's predictions be written with a different colored marker than the responses on the Astor product? That is a key convincer in the routine I perform with Lefler's version.

I like Astor Mental quite a lot.

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: December 7th, 2008, 1:52 pm
by 000
Anyone?

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: January 21st, 2009, 3:53 pm
by Barefoot Boy
Am I the only one who is not a fan of Mental Epic?

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: January 21st, 2009, 4:00 pm
by John LeBlanc
Some people say they don't like card tricks. It's more likely they don't like the way a card trick was performed and wished to shove a rusty fork into the eyeball of the performer before impaling the fork -- and eyeball -- into the hand of the performer. (Well, maybe that goes a little far.)

Ever see Richard Osterlind's Steno ESP?

John

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: January 24th, 2009, 4:07 pm
by Barefoot Boy
Yes, of course I'm familiar with Steno ESP. It's very good! The problem I have with Mental Epic is not one of the design of the effect (ie. predicting three thoughts in succession). My issue is with the prop in the first place. A large slate divided into segments doesn't work for me.. If one is to perform a three-phase prediction (Cerberic Routine), one is FAR better off using a common note pad, as per Osterlind's Steno routine, than a prop that appears to come from another planet...
..perhaps the Mental Epic Slate comes from the same planet as the Dove Pan?

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: February 9th, 2009, 8:24 am
by Spellbinder
My problem with the Supreme Slate of Mind Mental Epic is that it usurps the title "Slate of Mind" which was coined by U.F. Grant for an entirely different effect. I have just completed a long e-Book on the subject; "Evolutionary Slate of Mind" which traces the original effect from Dr. Jaks in the 1940's through Grant's take, Aldini's Improvements, and variations by a lot of others. My own final solution for the effect does away with all the gimmicks, and makes possible an impromptu version using a note pad.

As for Mental Epics, while I agree with the notepad concept in principle, I still like the cleverness of the Astor Epic and wish I could afford one just to play with it.

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: February 9th, 2009, 5:37 pm
by Jeff Haas
If you don't like the prop but like the type of routine, David Regal has one you can make out of a cork memo board in his latest book.

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: February 9th, 2009, 11:51 pm
by 000
Phineas, have ordered your e book, Evolutionary Slate of Mind, and look forward to reading it!

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: February 10th, 2009, 8:47 am
by David Alexander
There are several ways of doing Mental Epic-type effects - a three-phase prediction - without the big magic-proppy-looking slate. I've done one for years that James Randi showed me. It was published by Bascom Jones. There are others. Search the literature.

Re: MENTAL EPIC

Posted: December 26th, 2009, 7:38 pm
by PMS
I have to give a thumbs up for STENO ESP and with some clever thinking, you could show as having all the pages blank as a convincer.