Two schools of magic

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Jack Shalom
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Two schools of magic

Postby Jack Shalom » October 24th, 2019, 8:07 am

You may enjoy this essay of mine about two opposing conceptions of magic:

https://jackshalom.net/2019/10/24/the-spanish-school/

Anthony Vinson
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Anthony Vinson » October 24th, 2019, 3:00 pm

Jack Shalom wrote:You may enjoy this essay of mine about two opposing conceptions of magic:

https://jackshalom.net/2019/10/24/the-spanish-school/


Thanks, Jack, that was enjoyable and thought-provoking. May I share the link on another magic forum?

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Jack Shalom
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Jack Shalom » October 24th, 2019, 3:42 pm

Thanks, Anthony. And, of course, yes, feel free to share the link.

Anthony Vinson
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Anthony Vinson » October 24th, 2019, 8:27 pm

Thanks!

Paco Nagata
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Paco Nagata » October 25th, 2019, 5:20 am

I reckon it has a lot to do with the attitude of the spectators. Maybe Spanish spectators are the most trouble maker with the magician in closeup magic, and maybe that's why we Spanish magicians have always paid a special attention to get along well with them, being nice, modest, sociable, letting them to participate in the trick... It's just a thought...

Personally speaking I have been always performing under this School of Magic because my spectators (relatives and friends) tended to misunderstand my purpose, which was always to entertain (not to be superior or smarter). So, I had to make a special effort to make clear what my purpose was. Actually it fit my personality perfectly, but I adopted that attitud out of necessity as well. Furthermore, taking advance that I'm only an amateur, I usually play the role of a clumsy magician, committing some mistakes before getting my goals; something similar to the "Perverse Magic" concept, but not the same, since in my case it is just my fault. Well, my aim always was to let them (spectators) consider me a "real" magician that really try to do his best, so that to get them like me, and more important, to get them consider me a "real" NICE magician.

In short, I think that it depends on your personality and your necessities, but not if your are from a "Spanish, American, French, Japanese... School." All School are good as long as you get your spectator have fun considering you a good entertaining magician.
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David Kaplan
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby David Kaplan » October 25th, 2019, 8:58 am

Nearly hidden in Paco Nagata's signature is a wonderful gift. He offers us a very well-written 554 page ebook that is thoughtful and passionate. His book deserves careful attention by all card magicians, both amateur and professional.

"The Passion of an Amateur Card Magician"
https://bit.ly/2lXdO2O
"La pasion de un cartómago aficionado"
https://bit.ly/2kkjpjn
I've finished my best improvement of the English translation on 16/10/19.


Thank you Paco!

Paco Nagata
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Paco Nagata » October 25th, 2019, 9:40 am

David Kaplan wrote:Thank you Paco!

Thanks to you David! And to every (card) magician lovers that devote some time to read anything from that book.
You will not find any special thing in that book, just some ideas, interesting experiences, thoughts, history backgrounds of classic effects with my personal ideas... So, an entertaining read for card magic lovers.
Again, endless thanks for your appeciation!
You can not imagine how happy make me words like yours after being all my life a simply family amateur (good ;) ) card magician.
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performer
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby performer » November 1st, 2019, 9:19 am

I shall try to find time to read the book. At first glance it seems very interesting.

Paco Nagata
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Paco Nagata » November 1st, 2019, 1:29 pm

performer wrote:I shall try to find time to read the book. At first glance it seems very interesting.

If card magicians like you can take some time to read something from that book, definitely it was worth to have been written it!
But, please, don't be very critical; remember that I'm only an amateur :?
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby performer » November 1st, 2019, 2:06 pm

If the book is crap I will say so. If it is good I will say so too.
Actually that is better for you. False praise from a mutual admiration society doesn't do anyone any good. However, I shall merely say that on a cursory first look I am intrigued by your introduction. I am getting a vibe that it is a good book. However, sometimes my vibes are incorrect. I shall have to reserve judgement for the moment.

Paco Nagata
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby Paco Nagata » November 1st, 2019, 2:58 pm

Got it. And Thank you very much for your time in having had a look to the introduction!
"The Passion of an Amateur Card Magician"
https://bit.ly/2lXdO2O
"La pasion de un cartómago aficionado"
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Latest erratum corrections and improvements update, 6/12/2019.

performer
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Re: Two schools of magic

Postby performer » November 1st, 2019, 4:26 pm

The point of view of an amateur interests me in some ways more than that of a professional. I am an amateur at heart.


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