Ray, maybe I wasn't clear if you are still confused over this. I call your opinion of card sleights nonsense, because it is nonsense, at least in the UK. Maybe an example from another thread will help illustrate why.Originally posted by Ray Haddad:
I started this thread to see what people's opinion on exposure was (seems about 50/50), not attack you in anyway.
I don't take it as an attack. I simply find it difficult to understand that you are asking for opinions, which are neither right nor wrong by definition, and then proceed call even one of them nonsense.
I was specifically addressing only one sleight but for the sake of discussion, I will use your example. Any sleight, including a double lift, can be exposed and skillful handling can overcome the mechanical issues of a spectator seeing you execute that sleight. As Richard Kaufman pointed out, a well executed pass can be a miracle.
All that being said, if a spectator THINKS he knows how you did a trick and announces that theory to everyone present, that is clearly how it was done. If he states that you took a card from the deck and put it on top, then he is right. Even if you did a pass or double lift, he is still right because that is a solution even though it is a wrong one.
Going to your example of a double lift, if he thinks you did it by having two of the same card, he is correct even if he is wrong. In order to counter his exposure, even if he is wrong, you have to stop, show that there are only 52 different cards, and then resume. Or, you have to show him how you are really doing it. "See, I'm not using a second card. I am doing a perfectly executed double lift."
A persistant heckler can actually get physically involved by grabbing the deck from you. I have seen that happen to more than one magician.
So it can be taken that everyone has heard of bottom dealing. This is a given. It was used in the OJ trial! Yet when gambling perfomers work, do people cry out "you are bottom dealing"? No. Why? Hmmm.
I am not one to give patronising advise usually, but...using the ambitious card example, if you have a card signed at the start it rules out duplicates and the problem you imagined happeneing. Something many magicians realised.
I don't think a spectator has *ever* tried to grab a deck out of my hands. Maybe the magi you saw this happen to was no good at crowd control?
Anyway, I understand your thoughts and opinion on the matter now Ray. I sincerely hope you don;t think I was attacking you personally at all now. Obviously we are never going to alter each others opinions on the matter, so there is no point at all arguing.
Thanks for your contribution to the thread.
Seems about 50/50 in conclusion.