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SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 10th, 2003, 12:23 pm

Just came back from the SAM convention. What was your favorite part?

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 10th, 2003, 4:27 pm

Hope it was much better than the IBM in KC.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Pete Biro » July 10th, 2003, 5:01 pm

C'mon fellas be specific... sheesh... shows Good, Bad, Krummy, Great, crowded, smelly, no new magic, nobody but nerds there... what???? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 11th, 2003, 12:01 am

Well, I was in the dealer room the entire time trying to sell subscriptions to Genii.
There were definitely hundreds more people than in Kansas City, and there was more excitement in the air. I did hear some complaints that the line-up was disappointing to some people, but I didn't see anything besides two of the stage shows so can't comment on that.
Needless to add, there was very little to do in Kansas City outside of the convention, and a lot to do in Vegas--Webmaster Brad and I went to see Siegfried and Roy's show and it was great. Lots of other shows to see. Kansas City was dead quiet around the hotel.
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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 11th, 2003, 8:01 am

Congrats to Richard for his Very high award from the Magic Circle, which was given to him in Vegas

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 11th, 2003, 8:15 am

The high point of the convention for me was the close up magic of Tomo Maeda. He is very creative and entertaining.
The best show I saw outside of the convention was Mac King. The magic was superb and it was the funniest live show I have ever seen.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 11th, 2003, 9:22 am

Congratulations to my son, Jayson Morrison, for receiving the 2003 Genii Award for Junior stage.
The convention was not as good as past SAM conventions....lots of down time without lots of lectures, meetings and stuff. Some called it the magicless convention. Gala shows were really great!

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Jerry Harrell » July 11th, 2003, 11:41 am

Congratulations O Chief Genii.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Brad A._dup1 » July 11th, 2003, 5:13 pm

I second Tomo Maeda! Seeing S&R was quite fun....they were fantastic.

There was a certain excitement in there, as Mr. Kaufman put it. Perhaps it was the Vegas "effect" on people--basically, the heat.

Paul Wilson's new trick "The Predator" is quite good. I didn't enjoy all of the shows, but there were a few acts that were very enjoyable.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby opie » July 11th, 2003, 7:27 pm

Good conventions can be measured as successful or unsuccessful by how well the group interacts and how convenient the various venues of the convention are.

The largest single cause of failure of a magic convention is generally the failure of the organizing committee to provide an available, comfortable, and inviting place where people can sit, drink, converse, and exchange, either as an alternative to attending a convention function or when there is "dead" time. A major problem at Vegas was the lack of a sufficiently-large auditorium/theater to accommodate everybody, and a serious lack of a place for idle people to congregate, when they could not get into a lecture/performance venue. Actually, there was a sufficiently-large room with tables, etc., where members could have met, but the room remained empty, except for one or two functions.

The solution in the future to that problem could be to have tables and chairs either in one end of the dealers' room or next to it. (I have taken more magic home from a convention as a result of these informal meeting places than I have ever gotten out of lectures.) An example was the TAOM in Lubbock, Texas a few years ago....There really isn't a lot to do in Lubbock, so everybody congregated, and there was a wonderful interaction of stars and neophytes.

Now, it is true that people have to join small groups they encounter in meeting rooms, so a planning committee should not only always plan to have the room available but also to have facilitators to keep activities going; if nothing else, there should be coffee and doughnuts in the mornings. If I were scheduling things for the room, I would post an agenda of topics and request volunteers to come in and perform or even lecture in short 10 to 15 minute mini-lectures, before leading the group into "show and tells".

If I had to criticize the SAM convention on one major thing, the above would be it. We are always going to have "size" problems, so the number of people at a convention is always going to have to be addressed, regarding what they will do with dead time. It is not enough to just plan programs; a committee must also provide for "dead" time fillers. Needless to say, the venues have to be such that everyone can be comfortable and BE ABLE TO SEE. There were no overheads for the close-up workers at the convention. I won't belabor that further.

The other major problem is logistics and movement of people. Until we figure out how to afford to hold our conventions in huge hotel/convention centers, we have a problem. I don't have the answer to that problem, but I can say that I am extremely tired from just getting back and forth from my room in the hotel to the meeting rooms and places to eat. Perhaps someone else has the solution...

Other than the above, I enjoyed myself, was sufficiently entertained, and even bought a trick.
I managed to come home with some of my gambling budget still in my pocket....not all, you understand, but some....

My friend, Rey Puentes, and I went around to most of the dealers and asked them to perform their "favorite" trick, regardless of whether they were selling it. The entertainment derived from these informal encounters will long be remembered by us. We even got Richard to do some finger flinging. (Shhhh...don't tell him, but I was very impressed with his handling of a card production effect....it was excellent...ssshhh).

"Size" and disorganization problems detracted from some great performers, many of whom I missed because I could not stand sitting long and not being able to see well from my seat.

That's my two cents worth....

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Pete Biro » July 11th, 2003, 11:16 pm

Too bad you never went to a convention our old IBM Committee produced. Bill Wells, Jim Nagle, Bill Spooner, Mike Stratman, and a few others (and yours truly) where the site, the other activities, the space, etc. were all taken into consideration.

Then when the jealous politicians started to stick their noses in we all said "Adios."

A note about my experiences with the Riviera. You get what you pay for. If the organizers need xxx-square feet of space you gotta pay for it. One way is by guaranteed (and booked) room nights. Proeblem is the magicians tend to find cheaper rooms elsewhere and don't help with the room nights at the convention site, thus causing the committees to either not book space or get killed when the post convention bills come in. :whack:
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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Terry » July 12th, 2003, 5:14 am

That's why I like attending Ring 198's "Unconventional Convention" every November. It is held at the Cumberland Falls State Park.

It provides a combined dealer room/lecture/show venue. After everything is done for the day, you retire to a big room in the lodge with a fireplace. There are mutliple areas with either tables/benches or couches/chairs/coffee tables.

If you want something to enjoy other than magic, you can take a nature walk down to the Falls. We have taken it the last 2 years, but with Jes being pregnant, we will be taking the car down this year.

Talk about a close knit group of conventioneers.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby MaxNY » July 12th, 2003, 7:31 am

One of the best things I have seen at a convention happened totally off cuff. This took place in Austin, at a TAOM, about 4 years ago. It was the last night, and the "registartion room" turned into a late night fun room. The room was located slightly away from the hotel lobby, and a bunch of us set up chairs facing the entrance, everytime some straggler accidently came upon us, we all applauded, and if they wanted to stay, and be part of the audience they could, but only if they showed us three tricks, or routines. Great fun. Then sometimes we sat there for three or four minutes before another person would wander into the applause trap.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby opie » July 12th, 2003, 7:41 am

Thanks Max...That is exactly what we like to do in Texas. Are you going to make it to Lubbock this year? The last one there, like the one in Austin, was just like you related above. We try to have "howdy" rooms at our TAOM meetings...

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Lisa Cousins » July 13th, 2003, 4:18 pm

Originally posted by David Groves:
Just came back from the SAM convention. What was your favorite part?
Oh, let's see ... chatting with David Groves? ;)

I was one of the people who registered after the all-important number of 900 had been reached, which means that I was not able to attend anything that was going on in the 900-seat theater at the Riviera - a total of four shows. We were given tickets to the Mac King and Rick Thomas shows as a consolation prize for our tardiness and indecision, and at both of these shows there were plenty of other SAM procrastinaters, so it felt like an extension of the program anyhow.

I got to meet Webmaster Brad, and can confirm the rumors that the Genii Forum was set up by a teenager - yes, it's quite true. Brad defected to The Happiest Place on Earth on Wednesday, but I saw him back at The Sinfulest Place on Earth next day.

My favorite part, though, was getting to be Jay Marshall's date for a show and dinner on two of the nights. We went to see "V: The Ultimate Variety Show" at the Venetian, and "The Amazing Jonathan" (with Mike Caveney opening) at the Flamingo. It was quite a remarkable experience to be going around Las Vegas with such a universally beloved individual as Jay Marshall. Really - he was greeted with grins and lavished with love and praise at every turn. He was an inspiration more Ultimate and Amazing than either of the shows we saw.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 13th, 2003, 5:54 pm

When Webmaster Brad first approached me about handling The Genii web site, I believe he was 15. When he suggested buying the software to put this Forum online, he was 16 or 17.
Now he's 18 and off to college at Berkely. Let's hope he still finds some time for us!
I met many Genii subscribers and many who participate in this forum, including Opie (and, yes, that's his real name). The dealer's room was purposefully held to about 35 dealers. This left huge aisles between the rows of tables. Had the aisles been moved closer together, there would've been a lot of room for some tables and chairs, as they have at the World Magic Seminar, also held at the same hotel (and it IS a long walk from your room to the dealer's room, but not nearly as long as it was at the Rio a few years ago).
The organization for the first afternoon show was a nightmare: it took over an hour to get everyone seated, and they had already STARTED THE SHOW before hundreds of people even made it into the room. Joseph's bird act was mostly over by the time I found my seat.
They got their act together for the remaining show, but it was a mess on the first day (one of the reasons being that the hotel removed 78 seats from the theater without telling the convention organizers!).
Genii did very nicely in the dealers room, and I'd like to thank all of you who either subscribed for the first time or renewed your subscriptions.
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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 14th, 2003, 10:13 am

Originally posted by Bradmagic:
I second Tomo Maeda! Seeing S&R was quite fun....they were fantastic.

There was a certain excitement in there, as Mr. Kaufman put it. Perhaps it was the Vegas "effect" on people--basically, the heat.

Paul Wilson's new trick "The Predator" is quite good. I didn't enjoy all of the shows, but there were a few acts that were very enjoyable.

-Brad
By coincidence there is a book titled " Predators/Stories " at Amazon.com by a Paul Wilson. I saw our Paul Wilson perform his new routine "The Predator" at the Castle recently. Wow! Strong magic!! :eek:

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 26th, 2003, 7:09 am

A monitor or two would've been a tremendous asset to have which would've allowed some of the finer close-up lecturers to be seen as well as heard...

I registered late and thus, was locked out of the Gala events except for the "Souldiers of Sorcery" Thanks to Opie and his resourcefulness, in which the only Standing Ovation of the entire week for performance was awarded to Phelson Jones and his fire act.

Convention Exhibition Dealer's Survey; We asked them to show us their favourite trick to perform from the items they were selling....

Opie and I were the only ones allowed to view this event;

Some of them were downright intimidated by our notebook and high-tech camera;

Oh yes one important thing...We said to them..."NO CARD TRICKS PLEASE?"

Allen Howard - Magic Magazine / "Juggled Pen on Nose"

Bob Little - Harbor Pa. "Rings of Chang" (Sold-Out! We bought the last ones)

Tannen's - Steve Brown & Albert Cadabra "Haunted Deck"

Hank Morehouse -White Pigeon Mi. "Kid's Cards"

Michael P. Lair - Canton Oh. "Floating Beach Ball", "New Improved Fake Hand"

*Opie Rey Award*(Most Elaborate Show) Carmelo Solano - Civezza, Italy, "Snake Basket with Yogano Stool as the kicker"
(This one drew a big crowd and was also the most entertaining presentation, maybe because I am partial to stage work)

Bill Schmelk - Wellington Illusions "Switchboard" (I Loved this device!)

Bill Smith - Magic Ventures Las Vegas,NV. "Windshear"

* Opie Rey Award * (Best Storyline) Craig R. Dickson - Pleasant Valley, NY. "Switchboard"

* Opie Rey Award * (Tied for Best Manipulation) John R. Rogers - Newcastle In. "Cigarrette to Cigar through Chest"

Barry Miller - Kent, England "Pom-Poms" (yawn!)

Stephen Kradolfer-Medford,Ma. Hank Lee Magic - Paul Harris "Lipsmacker"

Dean Dill (Do we have to tell you? Okay then no surprise...."Dean Dill's Box"

*Opie Rey Award* (Best Looking Exhibitionist) Lynetta Welch "Beer Bottle Dropper"

Gyula Zsuza - Czilli, Budapest, Hungary - "CD Zig-Zag"

Scott Cohen - Sasco Phil. Pa. "Coin-Ring"

*Opie Rey Award* (Nicest Couple) Bob and Roz King - Rochester, Ny. ""Ring on String"

*Opie Rey Award* (Tied Best Manipulation and Most difficult patter to disect) Scott Alexander, Baltimore, MD. of Denny Lee Magic, "Bob Sheet's It's the Rules Dice Routine"

Denny, Baltimore, Md. "Malini Egg Bag"

Joe Lefler - Painesville, Oh. "Supreme Slate of Mind"

*Opie Rey Award* (Too Hot and Too Tall) Rachel Wild of Australia "Sorcerer's Surprise"

*Opie Rey Award* Richard Kaufman (He was ready even though he was only selling Genii Subcriptions and he looks eerily like Harry Houdini as Opie pointed out)
"Phoenix Aces and Ambitious Card" "Opie/Rey Card Waiver" we let him do cards because he wasn't selling anything but those wonderful magazines with free samples issues to everone except Opie!.....

Joe Mogar - Alloway, NJ. (if you can't guess this one then you don't know knives) " Stag Knife Sensation "

*Opie Rey Award* (Most unlikely couple Stage Norm and Closeup Lupe) Norm and Lupe Nielson Las Vegas, NV. "Chop Cup Tea Surprise" (Sweet Magic)

Mark Stevens -Wichita, KS. "Prediction Clock"

I really wish many of the magicians could've seen this private display we were truly lucky to have seen...This too was the highlight of my week....

Items I purchased were;

"Rings of Chang" (Magnetic Linking Rings)
"Pyro-Perception"
"New Latex Fake Hand"
"Chrome Plated Silver Kennedy"
"Jumbo Coin Dropper"
"3-D Kennedy Coin"
"40mm. Red Manipulation Balls"
"A few books on marketing"

"Rings of Chang" Erased the magnetic strip on my ATM Card and I had to do a wire transfer to the casino.....ugghh...!

I really hope you appreciate this little gem of notes Opie and I collected...it was alot of hard work for the two of us......Appreciate

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 26th, 2003, 7:51 am

You would think that, here at FISM, where registration was a whopping 500 bucks, that they would spend the money and have video monitors during lectures. Forget it. Lots of complaints about people not being able to see.
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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 26th, 2003, 10:28 am

Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:
There were, if you can believe it, many people who did not know that I had taken over Genii in October 1998--they thought the Larsens were still running it.
Huh?
They must have been in a coma...

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby Guest » July 26th, 2003, 3:33 pm

Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:

There were, if you can believe it, many people who did not know that I had taken over Genii in October 1998--they thought the Larsens were still running it.
Huh?
And now, the top five reasons you can tell that Richard Kaufman has taken over Genii:

Number Five: Graphics do not resemble a house organ for a retirement home.

Number Four: Astonishing reduction in the number of hound's tooth bowties in cover photos.

Number Three: Actual content in every issue.

Number Two: Racherbaumer writing a column in the same magazine that Vernon used to write one in.

And Number One: More than one issue a year.

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Re: SAM Convention

Postby opie » July 26th, 2003, 3:39 pm

Don't be calling Rockerbaumer Number Two....hehehe (Hey Jon....Patrick McKeever sends high regards..... :0p


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