Disappearing Magic Cafe!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Tarotist » July 20th, 2022, 1:24 pm

I am beginning to think the end is nigh for the magic cafe.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » July 20th, 2022, 3:20 pm

I've had experiences at home where my backup drives have let me down. How much redundancy is there usually in a commercial site's backup system?

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 20th, 2022, 4:16 pm

It depends how much you pay for!
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Chris Aguilar » July 20th, 2022, 10:21 pm

Jack Shalom wrote:I've had experiences at home where my backup drives have let me down. How much redundancy is there usually in a commercial site's backup system?

Good hosts provide robust redundancy/recovery.

The Café has "Steve's buddy Gene".

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Brian Douglas » July 21st, 2022, 7:09 am

I've noticed an uptick in new memberships on other magicians forums. Seems like everyone is edging their bets!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 21st, 2022, 11:27 am

"hedging" their bets.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Brian Douglas » July 21st, 2022, 11:59 am

Yes! That too! Glad to see we are finally on the same page. ;)

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby katterfelt0 » July 21st, 2022, 2:16 pm

Brian Douglas wrote:I've noticed an uptick in new memberships on other magicians forums. Seems like everyone is edging their bets!

Autocorrect is a harsh mattress.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Joe Lyons » July 21st, 2022, 2:57 pm

katterfelt0 wrote:
Brian Douglas wrote:I've noticed an uptick in new memberships on other magicians forums. Seems like everyone is edging their bets!

Autocorrect is a harsh mattress.


:lol:

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby kkelly » July 21st, 2022, 4:11 pm

Brian Douglas wrote:I've noticed an uptick in new memberships on other magicians forums. Seems like everyone is edging their bets!



i wonder if we are having an "uptick" here on the forum.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 21st, 2022, 4:22 pm

Just had a note from Steve Brooks that they are almost ready to relaunch.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » July 21st, 2022, 10:03 pm

Inquiring minds want to know: will Mark get to claim credit for a Friday launch! Stay tuned...

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » July 21st, 2022, 10:05 pm

Hmm just checked...home page then click and got a completely blank page. Something's not loading....

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Brian Douglas » July 21st, 2022, 10:41 pm

Jack Shalom wrote:Hmm just checked...home page then click and got a completely blank page. Something's not loading....


This page isn’t workingwww.themagiccafe.com is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 500

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Dave Le Fevre » July 22nd, 2022, 4:04 am

Joe Lyons wrote:
katterfelt0 wrote:
Brian Douglas wrote:I've noticed an uptick in new memberships on other magicians forums. Seems like everyone is edging their bets!

Autocorrect is a harsh mattress.

:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: indeed

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Joe Lyons » July 22nd, 2022, 7:52 am

Dave Le Fevre wrote:
Joe Lyons wrote:
katterfelt0 wrote:Autocorrect is a harsh mattress.

:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: indeed


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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Dave Le Fevre » July 22nd, 2022, 9:10 am

Thanks - I'll let him know

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Tarotist » July 22nd, 2022, 4:30 pm

Jack Shalom wrote:Inquiring minds want to know: will Mark get to claim credit for a Friday launch! Stay tuned...


I will claim credit even if it doesn't happen on Friday! I have been studying Donald Trump!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Roger M. » July 22nd, 2022, 6:39 pm

Of course the Magic Cafe will be back at some point in 2022, with maybe only dozens, or perhaps thousands of posts missing ... that was never really the issue.

The issue is the fundamental dishonesty from Brooks and his minions surrounding the "offline" period, and the implications that such "fundamental dishonesty" has as it might relate to the operation of the Magic Cafe in general.

As noted previously, the explanations offered to date are so childish in their reading, nobody who is sane could be expected to believe them.

Folks need to read Brooks Facebook comments (linked to on page #1 of this thread) ... where Gene basically states that there was so much untoward going on he couldn't even comment on it, and that if folks only knew what terrible things were happening they'd have an entirely different opinion on the matter of the Magic Cafe being offline for so long.

Which of course, is the entire point ... that Brooks, rather than B.S.'ing everybody ... release an honest assessment of what's actually going on, and reap the benefits of not having to cover his rear-end after all the lies he's told as to why the Cafe is offline for (so far) almost an entire month!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby eddie1 » July 23rd, 2022, 9:41 am

Gene from Facebook:

“Hi Chris. The old server is basically toast and we're having a new server built that needs certain software to run properly. This is at a different datacenter, by the way, since the former datacenter has not been the same since they told me the server was moved. I don't know what happened there (nothing public) but they were basically good until recently. Anyway, while all main software has been installed there are a couple modules that are pending that my techs are working on and the 500 error is the result of those modules not yet ready. To be very clear, however, ALL data is safe and sound with the exception of those three or so hours the old server was up after the move and before the drive crashed. I even have a copy of the data on my computer here at home and the one at my office. I can also confirm that there was no foul play here. The Cafe wasn't hacked, nor was anything else on the server. Again, the dataset is fully complete with all 5.2M+ posts intact.”

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Brian Douglas » July 24th, 2022, 12:10 am

Looks like it is coming back up...

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Just think Jack! Soon we will be able to go back and argue over which is better; blue or red backed Bicycle cards ;)

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Leo Garet » July 24th, 2022, 10:56 am

This looks like an "official" Magic Cafe page. If so, why, I wonder does it say "This MAY be due to an automatic backup process....."

MAY [b][i] be?

Don't they know?

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Brian Douglas » July 24th, 2022, 11:12 am

I think it is their default message for when they do their daily updates.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » July 24th, 2022, 11:32 am

Brian Douglas wrote:Looks like it is coming back up...

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Just think Jack! Soon we will be able to go back and argue over which is better; blue or red backed Bicycle cards ;)

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby I.M. Magician » July 24th, 2022, 6:17 pm

The Magic Cafe is back online!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 24th, 2022, 6:19 pm

Looks like they lost everything after June 26, unless that was the day it went down.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby I.M. Magician » July 24th, 2022, 7:12 pm

Although I am not absolutely certain, I am thinking that was when the site went down. If not, it was very soon after.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Tarotist » July 24th, 2022, 10:42 pm

I.M. Magician wrote:The Magic Cafe is back online!


In that case no doubt it will be running on Friday as I predicted.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jeffrey Cowan » July 25th, 2022, 4:53 pm

As of now, it's back up.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby katterfelt0 » August 4th, 2022, 5:16 pm

Robert77 wrote:
Jack Shalom wrote:The two best threads on the Cafe are kind of buried: Dan Harlan's brilliant equivoque thread where he does an equivoque in "real time" in the thread with cafe posters; and Tomas Bloomberg's terrific coincidence card trick which is contained within an esoteric probability thread.


I would LOVE to read that equivoque thread. The best tutoring I've had in it was from a lecture by Eugene Burger. The lecture was, literally, so amazing that magi who paid to sit in, exposed to the modus, literally did not see it coming when it was demonstrated. That was decades ago but I believe the response was "wait, what!?"

Well here you go: The Dan Harlan thread is here and the Tomas Blomberg one is here.

It took me a bit to find those. The Blomberg one was particularly tricky (pardon the pun) to find.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » August 4th, 2022, 8:13 pm

Nice detective work!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby katterfelt0 » August 4th, 2022, 11:00 pm

Thank you, sir.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Dave Le Fevre » August 5th, 2022, 4:58 am

Thank you for those links

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby katterfelt0 » August 5th, 2022, 9:35 am

You're quite welcome, Dave.
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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » August 5th, 2022, 3:35 pm

BTW in the Harlan section there's a thread on the pass where Harlan gives advice that I felt was quite helpful to me.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Tarotist » August 5th, 2022, 7:34 pm

I see that the Magic Cafe is running today. And today is Friday. I predicted the place would be running on Friday and indeed it is.

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Jack Shalom » August 5th, 2022, 11:50 pm

And lo and behold, the crowd was verily astonished, for he hath prognosticated in godlike manner, without trace of one ahead or switching box, the future!

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Re: Disappearing Magic Cafe!

Postby Tarotist » August 6th, 2022, 12:49 am

I should probably go over there now. I expect the moderators are all in bed.


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