Big Announcement from The Jerx

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Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Joe Mckay » May 24th, 2020, 9:45 am

Andy's blog is five years old today. And he has marked that moment by finally stepping out of the shadows to reveal his real identity.

http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2020/5/23/the-jerx-revealed

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Tom Frame » May 24th, 2020, 10:25 am

No way!

But it would be a huge hilarious hoot if he really is Andy.
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Richard Kaufman » May 24th, 2020, 11:19 am

OMG.
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Roger M. » May 24th, 2020, 11:20 am

A couple of weeks ago, I wrote:

I think as more about "Andy" becomes known, it becomes apparent that he is quite involved in magic and mentalism, and further that he's no lightweight on either topic.
You may disagree profoundly with his writing style, but it would be a mistake to dismiss his deeper thinking on the subject matter.

I think his readers (fans?) who have been generally receptive to The Jerx since the beginning had already parsed that "Andy" knows of what he speaks, but of note too is that he has also established a solid track record in terms of web publishing, book publishing, and newsletter publishing.
He's not just some hacker throwing crap against the wall, he's a knowledgable magician with a proven track record, and a unique writing style that is (apparently) difficult for some readers to cosy up to.


.....so I'm not at all surprised.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Yehuda » May 24th, 2020, 11:22 am

Well, my post in the other Jerx thread just got funnier:
Yehuda wrote:Hmmm.

Derren works with Andy Nyman and with Andrew O’Connor and seems to be a fan of Andy Jerx.

Andy Jerx’s name is Andy, he works with a guy named Andrew Costello and he always says how Derren Brown is his favorite performer.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Roger M. » May 24th, 2020, 11:24 am

BTW, it would seem that what were already very limited editions of "Andy's" books and sundry newsletters, etc have suddenly achieved a previously unimaginable value on the used market.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Yehuda » May 24th, 2020, 11:26 am

Am I the only one here that doesn’t think this is real?

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby JHostler » May 24th, 2020, 11:31 am

Holy cow. Assuming this isn't a huge put-on, it feels really weird having had email conversations with the man - who at one point referred to himself as "nobody of any consequence." If "Andy" HAS managed to fabricate this... well, major kudos!
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Mac Stone » May 24th, 2020, 11:36 am

Yehuda wrote:Am I the only one here that doesn’t think this is real?

Yehuda


No.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Yehuda » May 24th, 2020, 11:39 am

Good. Just checking.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Roger M. » May 24th, 2020, 11:44 am

... or maybe it's Derren fabricating "Andy", proceeding to admit he is "Andy" but ... then Derren will begin to imply that he isn't "Andy" after all (even though he really is Andy) - all in order to undertake the most complex Derren Brown performance piece to date?

We're all part of a massive Derren Brown social experiment, the outcome of which we can't yet imagine?

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Bill Duncan » May 24th, 2020, 12:29 pm

Similarity in writing style, aside, I rather hope this isn't true. If only so that the site can post weekly "I am Spartacus" videos.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Richard Kaufman » May 24th, 2020, 12:53 pm

The whole thing is fascinating.
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Jack Shalom » May 24th, 2020, 1:02 pm

Not Derren. Andy's an American.

Good gag, though.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Chris Aguilar » May 24th, 2020, 2:29 pm

Very nice of Derren to assist "Andy" with the gag.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Richard Kaufman » May 24th, 2020, 3:03 pm

Jack, what makes you certain that "Andy" is American?
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby erdnasephile » May 24th, 2020, 3:09 pm

After reading his previous publications, the reveal actually makes a ton of sense. (if true).

I personally think it is, however. Knowing how distrusting the world is now about information--"fake news" and all that--I think the biggest gag would be to tell the truth and no one believes it.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Sean-Dylan » May 24th, 2020, 5:35 pm

It's a gag.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Travis » May 24th, 2020, 5:47 pm

I'm also inclined to believe we're being trolled, but it would be a meta-troll if it turned out to be true.
I love that I really can't be certain. Derren comes across as very sincere and believable in the video, but he's also very capable of doing that, and also cheeky enough to take part in such a stunt. Still, though, it would be really cool if it were so. I truly don't know.

Here's my question: For those of you stating definitively that it's a gag, how do you know that for certain?

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Ian Kendall » May 24th, 2020, 6:34 pm

In order for it to be true, you would have to ascribe the original Magic Circle Jerk to Derren as well, and that doesn't fit in quite as well.

Andy clearly wrote both, but Derren makes no mention of it at all. That should be a red flag.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby JHostler » May 24th, 2020, 6:43 pm

According to his 5/27/15 post, the original MCJ ended at "a very busy time in my life." This would have been in the thick of "Trick of the Mind." He drops another bit of relevant info in that post as well. (There's also a mathematical/numerological/vitamin B2-infused proof... but I won't get into that here. :) )
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby I.M. Magician » May 24th, 2020, 6:50 pm

For me, the red flag is at one point, Darren has a subtle facial expression which tells you it’s a gag. He was struggling to keep a straight face.

Watch it again carefully and you will see that moment I am referring to which speaks volumes.

And oh...a stunt like this follows the profile and offbeat nature of the Jerx.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Jack Shalom » May 24th, 2020, 7:22 pm

Ian Kendall wrote:In order for it to be true, you would have to ascribe the original Magic Circle Jerk to Derren as well, and that doesn't fit in quite as well.

Andy clearly wrote both, but Derren makes no mention of it at all. That should be a red flag.


Exactly. If you've been following Andy for a long time, there are just common references and assumptions in the content of the writing and the style that are definitely American, and a decided lack of automatic references and assumptions that would be British. And the adolescent sensibility that Andy portrays is an American adolescent, not a British one. Too many details of that kind of upbringing that I don't believe anyone not American would come up with.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby erdnasephile » May 24th, 2020, 8:38 pm

Ian Kendall wrote:In order for it to be true, you would have to ascribe the original Magic Circle Jerk to Derren as well, and that doesn't fit in quite as well.

Andy clearly wrote both, but Derren makes no mention of it at all. That should be a red flag.


That's a good point--I hadn't considered that.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby MagicbyAlfred » May 24th, 2020, 9:55 pm

i think there's about as much chance of "Andy" being Derren Brown as there is of American comedian, Chris Rock, being Queen Elizabeth.

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Who is The Jerx

Postby Jonathan Townsend » May 24th, 2020, 10:07 pm

Kudos to Andy. :ugeek: Ah the possibilities - https://www.cameo.com/johndavidson?fbcl ... 2Wjwn0WM0M

Starting to read like other "who wrote that" discussions. I am Spartacus.

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Postby Chris Aguilar » May 24th, 2020, 10:45 pm

Jonathan Townsend wrote:Kudos to Andy. :ugeek: Ah the possibilities - https://www.cameo.com/johndavidson?fbcl ... 2Wjwn0WM0M

Starting to read like other "who wrote that" discussions. I am Spartacus.

I've always pictured you as more "Sportacus".

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Joe Lyons » May 24th, 2020, 11:17 pm

MagicbyAlfred wrote:i think there's about as much chance of "Andy" being Derren Brown as there is of American comedian, Chris Rock, being Queen Elizabeth.

Mmmmmm.......you know I’ve never seen Chris Rock and the Queen in the same place together......

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Jack Shalom » May 24th, 2020, 11:55 pm

Penn might have been a better guess:

https://www.cameo.com/browse/more/magicians

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Jeffrey Korst » May 25th, 2020, 1:32 am

Won't make sense if you're not a fan of Top Gear and F1, but it reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifrtlC4NTys

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Tom Stone » May 25th, 2020, 6:30 am

It would have been amusing if Derren was the actual author of stuff like this:
https://www.thejerx.com/blog/2017/6/11/ ... rren-brown

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby MagicbyAlfred » May 25th, 2020, 7:38 am

Joe Lyons wrote:
MagicbyAlfred wrote:i think there's about as much chance of "Andy" being Derren Brown as there is of American comedian, Chris Rock, being Queen Elizabeth.

Mmmmmm.......you know I’ve never seen Chris Rock and the Queen in the same place together......


:lol:

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Matthew Field » May 25th, 2020, 9:10 am

Derren is actually also Erdnase.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby JHostler » May 25th, 2020, 9:57 am

You're all so quick to write off the most obvious conclusion: Derren has an identical (and rather mischievous) twin, also named Derren.
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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Leo Garet » May 25th, 2020, 10:32 am

Is it just me?

Whenever I click on the link I get an unsafe, beware you're about to be scammed type of message.

So whatever the Great Reveal is, I remain in the Dark.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby MagicbyAlfred » May 25th, 2020, 12:57 pm

JHostler wrote:You're all so quick to write off the most obvious conclusion: Derren has an identical (and rather mischievous) twin, also named Derren.


And does this twin worship at the alter of ego?

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Travis » May 25th, 2020, 1:08 pm

Leo Garet wrote:Is it just me?

Whenever I click on the link I get an unsafe, beware you're about to be scammed type of message.

So whatever the Great Reveal is, I remain in the Dark.


I've encountered no such issue.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby PapaG » May 25th, 2020, 5:05 pm

Tom Stone wrote:It would have been amusing if Derren was the actual author of stuff like this:
https://www.thejerx.com/blog/2017/6/11/ ... rren-brown


It would make Andy Kaufman look positively pedestrian.

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

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Re: Big Announcement from The Jerx

Postby Curtis Kam » May 26th, 2020, 1:17 am

Or is that just what he WANTS us to think?


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