Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Jack Shalom » October 24th, 2019, 6:22 pm

skmayhew wrote:
Jack Shalom wrote:“So to make things fair—even though it is not easy to be fair in a capitalistic society—each time I earn money from performing magic, I would have to give a portion to Ascanio’s widow, Slydini’s heirs, and many others and say, ‘Here, please, this is your portion of my success.’ “—Juan Tamariz


I can't tell from that quote if that's something he actually does, or if he's just a musing...


Pretty sure it's musing. It's from a Genii interview from October 2002.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 26th, 2019, 8:24 am

Shin Lim might not be using "stooges" at the moment the layfolks are chosen from the audience, but I'm pretty sure they get "instant stooged" during the act. I remember something about signatures not matching
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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Jack Shalom » October 26th, 2019, 9:16 am

There are ways to do that without stooging. Bob Cassidy used to put a carefully placed thumb "accidentally" over a portion of a billet to miscall it while the spec was looking at the billet s/he had written.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 26th, 2019, 9:07 pm

Jack, have you watched Shin's act? I think it was "Red." I think that had one where the signatures were dissimilar.
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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Skmayhew2 » October 27th, 2019, 12:58 am

Looked fine when he performed it on Fool Us.

Maybe MC has some input.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby James » October 27th, 2019, 3:40 pm

Looks like Shin has a new gig at the Mirage:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/shin-lim-t ... lue_social

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Robert77 » October 31st, 2019, 12:47 am

Brad Henderson wrote:Kent, my phone capitalizes what it chooses to capitalize. If you’re going to focus on the typography and not the content of the message then our priorties are clearly different and I’m not sure we will have much to discuss. .


I was just surfing the thread until I hit this quote. Then a follow up post by Brad where (once again) Shin was spelled "shin". I don't know Shin. I don't care about Shin. But for fooks sake, if he's a person his name should be capitalized. Do it enough for your phone to learn it. Or start posting with a computer instead of a phone, where better tools are available. Or just pay more attention.

Despite me appreciating Brads comments in this thread, blaming a phone for ones failure to properly capitalize proper names strikes me as absurd. More to the point it's indicative of a major problem today: people choosing to use [censored] technology and then blaming it for poorly written comments or arguments. And yes, I've done it too [I have to go back and fix my own posts on Facebook many times a day.]

Phone sized computers, and crappy social media software ill suited to use in a continuing conversation or thread of discussion, will kill us.

Imagine of our magic texts were written with excuses like these!


Sigh :(.

Ok I'm back to oblivion...

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Robert77 » October 31st, 2019, 12:50 am

skmayhew wrote:Not sure how to reconcile that ^ ... with this :

Brad Henderson wrote:
The venue for what he does is Instagram.

^ THAT’S an insult.



What you see here relates to my comment above: using #*)*@)@&()! social media software on phone and tablets encourages people to write in sound bites. THEY know what they meant, but because of how they wrote it, no one else will.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Brad Henderson » October 31st, 2019, 9:11 am

I’m not sure what could not be understood in the quote you posted. I understood what steve wrote, and I think my original post was clear in context of the post which preceded it. I could have ‘quoted it’’ but then we would be taking advantage of those $&@/ social media protocols you despise.

Having said that - and my interest in this has only to do with the condemnation of the modern rather than any desire to defend myself - forums posts are NOT novels nor are they technical manuals. They are exchanges between friends/colleagues/fellow internet users.

I think if you look to literary history you will see such dialogue is often if not always conveyed using what passed as normal conversation of the times. Would you have complained when Twain used dialect in his writings as those were nothing but ‘sound bytes’?

Should we dismiss scout’s epiphanies because they sounded like what a preteen child would say?

Sound byte style communication is here to stay. The Internet forums aren’t usually the place for detail, exposition, and development. In fact, in many places, posts that are long are condemned. Some sites even have admonitions against posts over three or four sentences.

So complaining that people are communicating in the style which has evolved as effective for a venue is essentially the same as magicians complaining about media magic, isn’t it?

It’s a desire to force others to conform to expectations and norms from a different place and a different time.

(Now, as to a personal defense. It’s all about values and interest. My interest in taking the time to post on a subject does not always exceed my interest in taking the time to fix cosmetic issues which clearly don’t impact anyone’s understanding. Shin (Capitalized by phone thanks to being first word in the sentence), shin, shim, mr s, the guy from agt who kept running his fingers through his hair, s.l., - in the context of this thread who here would not know exactly to whom is being referred? Let’s not get hung up on form. Joyce (and others) taught us that the written word is not bound by rules and in breaking them sometimes we have freed ourselves to express thoughts in ways otherwise impossible).

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Joe Lyons » October 31st, 2019, 10:39 am

Twain and Harper Lee used dialect purposefully to convey information about age, education, income level, and regional prejudice and superstition.

I am afraid Kent, Robert and perhaps others think that you are conveying something with your neglect to capitalize, intentional or not.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 31st, 2019, 12:16 pm

Many who post on social media using their phones not only don't capitalize, but don't use full words or any punctuation. I think Brad is actually doing better than many others. But I do wish he would capitalize people's names.
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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Robert77 » October 31st, 2019, 7:05 pm

Brad, despite my post about formatting of your messages, I like your post about Shins performances and your thoughts on how social media magic (abbreviated here as SSM) could be considered another 'type' of magic. And I'm one of those who would not have a particularly high opinion of SMM, not that such matters.

Magicians coming up today have many advantages that baby boomer and previous generations of magicians did not have. One of the biggest is to see ones own performance on video playback. I believe this accounts for the extreme skill shown by many 'young' magicians today; they can see themselves perform, they can see how others perform, they can slow down video to dissect a performance. It's quite a blessing.

It also may be a problem. Always playing to a camera lens does not help one learn about angles, management of viewers, or the viability of a certain trick in general performance.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Brad Henderson » October 31st, 2019, 7:22 pm

Thanks. And I appreciate you saying that. But truthfully, I did find the parallel interesting - how we get attached to certain conventions and often resist changes that result from participating in a new system. And I’m as guilty of it as anyone. Which is why I try to think about those things that tend to produce that response in me. For example, I reached out to De’Vo for a genii interview during the beginning of the cardistry craze in hope to better understand what that whole thing was about. I tend to think if I really don’t like something, then finding out why (and what others see in it) can prove interesting and even valuable.

And please know, I have tried to do better with capitals. My phones setting on auto cap had changed after an update and I fixed that a while ago. Which helped a lot obviously. But there are still a lot that get by, and as I had become so used to it I often overlook them. Eventually it’s too late to edit.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Travis » October 31st, 2019, 11:46 pm

“ MGM Resorts International announced the show he performs along with mentalist Colin Cloud will be extended through June 2020”

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertain ... y-1882945/

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Brad Jeffers » November 1st, 2019, 2:02 am

"Shin Lim settles in for long-term Las Vegas Strip residency"
Is a six month contract now considered to be a long-term residency?

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Leo Garet » November 1st, 2019, 11:34 am

Mark, or should I be more formal and respectful and say Mister Lewis.

Before you're disappeared once again, can I say it's good to see you back.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby performer » November 1st, 2019, 12:44 pm

Your Highness would be a suitable mode of address I think.

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby Leo Garet » November 1st, 2019, 2:27 pm

performer wrote:Your Highness would be a suitable mode of address I think.

Not Your Shyness, then?

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Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

Postby performer » November 1st, 2019, 4:21 pm

I am actually very shy.


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