A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » November 1st, 2019, 12:21 pm

Perhaps!
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Jonathan Townsend » November 1st, 2019, 1:36 pm

Threads section seconded - between Abbot's floating ball routine and the invention of the IT reel - t's sensible to expand the Thornton Windlass section :)
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » November 1st, 2019, 1:42 pm

What is the point of keeping the Thornton Windlass material in? You can't buy one. Old ones are difficult to fix and keep in shape.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Bill Mullins » November 1st, 2019, 2:56 pm

Does that mean that the piece on the Neyhart Rising Cards is liable to be cut?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Gary Brown » March 12th, 2020, 11:46 pm

Any update re: release date in this?
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Jonathan Townsend » March 13th, 2020, 10:05 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:What is the point of keeping the Thornton Windlass material in? You can't buy one. Old ones are difficult to fix and keep in shape.
There are also tricks using music box innards - perhaps a section on mechanical marvels. :)

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 13th, 2020, 12:03 pm

Neyhart will stay in.
Release will be the end of 2021.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby anemann » April 14th, 2020, 2:19 pm

Hi. Will this new edition(s) be a brand new volume or volumes for the 21st century or like the reprint i brought from you about 15 to 20 years ago. Thanks

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » April 14th, 2020, 6:26 pm

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Greater Magic

Postby Philippe Noël » November 10th, 2020, 9:34 am

What effects do you think the new version of Greater Magic should absolutely contain?
Some come directely to my mind as Jazz Aces, Matrix, Triomphe, Twisting the Aces, Travelers, Slow Motion Assembly, Matching the cards, Christ Aces, Chicago opener, Biddle Trick, Between your palms, Cannibal cards, All Backs, Color Changing deck, Dunbury Illusion, Oil and Water, Reset, Collectors, Out of this world, Mental reverse, Hofzinser Ace Problem, Lie Detector, Elevator, Ambitious classic, Han Ping Chien,...
What are your ideas?

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Re: Greater Magic

Postby Jonathan Townsend » November 10th, 2020, 10:17 am

For magicians of mention
Dick Himber
Penn & Teller
Honorable mention of David Copperfield, Doug Henning and Harry Blackstone Jr. for inspiring a generation
Dick Koornwinder
Lubor Fiedler

Magic method items
The Sylvester Pitch
Mike Rubenstein's ROPS sleight (companion to Vernon's A Coin Vanish)
Gertner's Gravity Deck Switch
Something about the card to wallet trick
Paul Harris's Solid Deck item

To describe but perhaps not teach-
Jason Latimer's Cups routine using clear cups?
Something about ACAAN
* preservation efforts and performance of the Hooker Card Rise act
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Re: Greater Magic

Postby Brad Henderson » November 10th, 2020, 11:40 am

Just curious why you think the clear cups is worthy of mention. It’s a trick that’s only relevant or interesting to people who already know how the trick is done. It’s mutual magical masturbation at its finest. Isn’t it?

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Re: Greater Magic

Postby Ted M » November 10th, 2020, 12:51 pm

This is the big thread for suggesting content for the book:

https://www.forums.geniimagazine.com/vi ... hp?t=51504

Probably best to add ideas there, so they're all grouped together.

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Re: Greater Magic

Postby Jonathan Townsend » November 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

Brad Henderson wrote:Just curious why you think the clear cups is worthy of mention.
I particularly liked the moment where the cups are swapped right for left but the ball stays in place.

The base effect has not been so actively explored recently. Just a mention - say between the sponge ball and shells/cups chapters.

The Vernon routine as distillation of methods - and the Chop cup deserve their due. Maybe the Tommy Wonder estate would consent to some mention of his routine.

After color changing knives and ring on string :)

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Philippe Noël » November 10th, 2020, 2:10 pm

I think many new techniques will need to be described : Elmsley Count, Jordan Count, Hamman Count, The Braué Addition, A.T.F.U.S, convincing control just to name a few card techniques...
and many new classic effects : Jazz Aces, Matrix, Triumph, Twisting the Aces, Travelers, Slow Motion Assembly, Matching the cards, Christ Aces, Chicago opener, Biddle Trick, Between your palms, Cannibal cards, All Backs, Color Changing deck, Dunbury Illusion, Oil and Water, Reset, Collectors, Out of this world, Mental reverse, Hofzinser Ace Problem, Lie Detector, Elevator, Ambitious classic, Han Ping Chien,...

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » November 10th, 2020, 4:23 pm

Greater Magic was never meant to be an encyclopedia. It's a sampling across the diverse categories of magic. My job is to make the sampling interesting and meaningful going forward.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Joe Lyons » November 10th, 2020, 6:41 pm

Definitely need a continuation of stage illusion section - thin sawing, Zig Zag, etc..

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Mark Booth » February 20th, 2021, 8:18 pm

Richard, Do you have an estimated date of availability for the new version?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » February 20th, 2021, 9:17 pm

Not sure yet. The pandemic has put a real crimp in my plans!
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby TerryTerrell » February 20th, 2021, 9:58 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Not sure yet. The pandemic has put a real crimp in my plans!


Not to mention uncontrolled seas. ;)

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby PressureFan » February 20th, 2021, 11:59 pm

What kind of crimp? Is it in the book?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » February 21st, 2021, 9:00 am

Ahem.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Clifford the Red » July 22nd, 2021, 6:34 am

While tobacco has lost its acceptance, marijuana is gaining ground. :D

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 22nd, 2021, 10:32 am

You can't do most cigarette tricks with joints because they're too flimsy.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Bob Farmer » July 22nd, 2021, 1:06 pm

Update the tipsy Cardini theme only now it's joints. They could be made more substantial with a bit of cardboard.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Chris Aguilar » July 22nd, 2021, 1:09 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:Update the tipsy Cardini theme only now it's joints. They could be made more substantial with a bit of cardboard.

Yeah, "munchy Cardini" where one manipulates cards with one hand and feeds oneself a large sandwich with the other during the routine.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Bill Mullins » July 22nd, 2021, 9:27 pm

Making a sandwich is too much trouble. Try a whole can of Pringles.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Philippe Noël » July 27th, 2021, 6:30 am

Who will do the illustrations since Harlan Tarbell is unfortunately no longer with us ?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Jonathan Townsend » July 27th, 2021, 1:03 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:Update the tipsy Cardini theme only now it's joints. They could be made more substantial with a bit of cardboard.
As long as the props look hand rolled... :)
?? Robert-Houdin's Ethereal Suspension using a few drops of cannibals-scent on the pan? :mrgreen:

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Ted M » July 3rd, 2022, 6:54 pm

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Whoa!

That's very, very exciting.

Uh, will I be able to afford to buy this?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Jack Shalom » July 3rd, 2022, 7:45 pm

will I be able to afford to buy this?


More importantly, the question is, will I be able to *lift* this?

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 3rd, 2022, 7:50 pm

Glad to see someone noticed that little ad we snuck into the latest issue of Genii.
I've just finished editing Max Maven's new chapter on Mentalism. :)
My goal is to keep the price as low as possible and the quality as high as it can be, which is why I'll be printing in China rather than the US.
The original Greater Magic measures 6 x 9; the new books will measure 7 x 10. The type will be easier to read.
My illustrator, who is already busy at work on multiple chapters, is Ever Elizalde. Here is a dummy page--a mock up (it happens to have dummy text I snatched from the new Malini chapter), into which I placed a sample drawing he did for me as a test before I hired him. When you put it side by side with a page of the original Greater Magic his work is harmonious with Tarbell's.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Ted M » July 4th, 2022, 12:20 am

You clearly like this typeface and have used it in many projects. I'm curious why you favor it?

What was the original Greater Magic typeface? As a reader, I find it an extremely comfortable one, though I recognize that it feels a bit old-fashioned today.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Bob Farmer » July 4th, 2022, 7:36 am

That looks great.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 4th, 2022, 11:23 am

Ted M wrote:You clearly like this typeface and have used it in many projects. I'm curious why you favor it?

What was the original Greater Magic typeface? As a reader, I find it an extremely comfortable one, though I recognize that it feels a bit old-fashioned today.


I'm not sure what font the original Greater Magic uses. It might be Times Roman, which I dislike.

The font I often use is Century because it's easy to read.
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Ted M » July 4th, 2022, 2:08 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:I'm not sure what font the original Greater Magic uses. It might be Times Roman, which I dislike.


Hmm... WhatTheFont suggests it's some version of Caslon, known for its comfortable readability...

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Roger M. » July 5th, 2022, 10:01 am

I haven't been purchasing a lot of magic books in the past few years (I ran out of shelf space), breaking that rule only for the recent Steve Forte tomes ... but this is something I'm ordering as soon as Richard announces that he's put an order page up.

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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 5th, 2022, 12:43 pm

Thank you. It will be too heavy for your shelf, so that issue goes away! :)
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Hooker's puppet bears its tale

Postby Jonathan Townsend » July 5th, 2022, 3:45 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:The description of the Hooker Rising Cards will be updated for correctness. One of Hooker's greatest tricks was routining things in such a way that it was extremely difficult to later recall exactly what you saw.
Ah, magic meets Herodotus, adding Hooker to the story of Miltiades? :)
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Re: A New Edition of Greater Magic is Coming

Postby erdnasephile » July 5th, 2022, 9:57 pm

This looks really great, RK! I really like how the design pays homage to the progenitor while advancing the design of the book.
Will the paper choice be consistent with your reprint of Greater Magic or will you go with another look?
Also, I can't wait to see that massive slipcover!
Finally, will the books have dustjackets too?


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