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Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 8:56 am
by Matthew Field
I went to The Magic Circle in London to see the lecture by David Stone (he was fabulous and the pace was jam-packed).

I got there early and went down to the library, I place I love to be, and there I discovered on the 'sale' shelves a book for which I've been searching for more than 30 years. I'm a lover of the work of Karl Fulves as some of you know, and I know he'd written some fiction. The book on the shelves was "Aftermath" published in 1976 by Citadel books. It's science fiction and it had an index card in it on which Karl had revealed the hidden force in the book to someone named Eric.

I paid the £4 (about $6.00) asking price and almost floated out the door.

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Matt Field

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 9:16 am
by Barden
Don't you love it when something like this happens. Congrats.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 2:30 pm
by Joe Mckay
I love that feeling.

Well played, Matt!

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 2:42 pm
by Richard Kaufman
A lucky day for Mr. Field!

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 5:32 pm
by Daniel Z
FYI There's a copy listed at ABE.com for U$425.00

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 6:41 pm
by PickaCard
On the flip side, there is likely someone who did not know the fair market value of what he had...

It's an ethical issue we have had at our club for estate sales when items such as the Garcia books have been offered at $5. Most of us know they should be closer to $100, but the widow does not.

Is is ok to jump on it for $5 or should one offer a fair price for some treasures?

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 8:03 pm
by Leonard Hevia
PickaCard wrote:On the flip side, there is likely someone who did not know the fair market value of what he had...

It's an ethical issue we have had at our club for estate sales when items such as the Garcia books have been offered at $5. Most of us know they should be closer to $100, but the widow does not.

Is it ok to jump on it for $5 or should one offer a fair price for some treasures?


That is a question I have asked myself and it's the first time I've seen it publicly posted. I once stumbled onto an eBay auction where the widow of a dead magician posted a below market auction price for a Lee Noble card to wallet. Did she know she had a Lee Noble wallet? I didn't think so and walked away with it for something like 40% below it's market value.

Years ago when Barry had his shop here in Maryland, he had a number of unsold Frank Garcia books for sale that he had found in storage. They were on the rack at original cover prices. He told me that a customer tried to buy them all up and he refused to sell him more than one copy of each book. It was obvious the customer wanted to resell them at double the price he paid but Barry wanted to give other customers a chance at purchasing the Garcia books at the published prices.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 8th, 2016, 9:41 pm
by observer
We are talking about a book being sold by the library of the Magic Circle.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 1:09 am
by Brad Jeffers
observer wrote:We are talking about a book being sold by the library of the Magic Circle.

What's your point?

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 1:19 am
by Ted M
I think the point is that, at least in this case, there's really no excuse for an uninformed seller.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 8:28 am
by Jonathan Townsend
Ted M wrote:I think the point is that, at least in this case, there's really no excuse for an uninformed seller.


How much for a tulip bulb?

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 12:05 pm
by observer
Ted M wrote:I think the point is that, at least in this case, there's really no excuse for an uninformed seller.


Pretty much. It's not at all like finding a first edition Erdnase with a "ten cents" sticker on it at a yard sale, that's for sure.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 12:06 pm
by observer
Jonathan Townsend wrote:How much for a tulip bulb?


And how many Dutchmen does it take to change one ... ?

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 1:01 pm
by Matthew Field
I've found many bargains for sale in The Magic Circle library, such as "The Card Magic of E.G. Brown."

And I bought another volume there on Monday for which I've long searched, "Magical Adventures and Fairy Tales" by Punx.

These books are duplicates from collections that have been donated to the Circle, which just doesn't have the room. The sale trolley is a bonus of membership for those visiting the London HQ, and other guests in the (amazing) building.

Matt Field

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 9th, 2016, 8:03 pm
by Leonard Hevia
Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Ted M wrote:I think the point is that, at least in this case, there's really no excuse for an uninformed seller.


How much for a tulip bulb?


Well Jonathan, if this was Holland about 380 years ago, I'd ask about $10,000 for that tulip you're eyeing.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: November 10th, 2016, 12:37 pm
by erdnasephile
PickaCard wrote:On the flip side, there is likely someone who did not know the fair market value of what he had...

It's an ethical issue we have had at our club for estate sales when items such as the Garcia books have been offered at $5. Most of us know they should be closer to $100, but the widow does not.

Is is ok to jump on it for $5 or should one offer a fair price for some treasures?


IMHO, I think it depends: if it's a retailer or an auction situation, then I just would just pay the $5 and be happy for my bargain.

If it's a individual person who clearly doesn't know what they are selling, I'd probably tip them off and try to negotiate a fair price.

If the shoe is on the other foot, i.e., a person wants something of mine and is willing to pay some crazy price for it, then I would not take advantage (unless they insisted) after I wised them up.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: July 14th, 2017, 10:40 am
by Bill Mullins
There's a copy of this in the Potter and Potter Busby auction.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: July 14th, 2017, 9:42 pm
by MagicbyAlfred
observer wrote:
Ted M wrote:I think the point is that, at least in this case, there's really no excuse for an uninformed seller.


Pretty much. It's not at all like finding a first edition Erdnase with a "ten cents" sticker on it at a yard sale, that's for sure.



Man Oh man! I paid ten times that for the one I picked up at a yard sale! Did I get ripped off?

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: July 14th, 2017, 10:38 pm
by Leonard Hevia
MagicbyAlfred wrote: Man Oh man! I paid ten times that for the one I picked up at a yard sale! Did I get ripped off?


That kind of thinking can drive one mad, Alfred. You pay X amount for a book or prop and then discover that a magic buddy paid far less than you did for the same item at a yard sale. Bear in mind that even if you overpaid for the item, your success in the acquisition ended the hard work of continued search. That is worth the extra money paid, given that certain magic books and props are really hard to find.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: July 14th, 2017, 10:51 pm
by MagicbyAlfred
Leonard Hevia wrote:
MagicbyAlfred wrote: Man Oh man! I paid ten times that for the one I picked up at a yard sale! Did I get ripped off?


That kind of thinking can drive one mad, Alfred. You pay X amount for a book or prop and then discover that a magic buddy paid far less than you did for the same item at a yard sale. Bear in mind that even if you overpaid for the item, your success in the acquisition ended the hard work of continued search. That is worth the extra money paid, given that certain magic books and props are really hard to find.


Agreed, Leonard.

Re: Fulves "Aftermath"

Posted: July 15th, 2017, 6:35 am
by erdnasephile
Leonard Hevia wrote:
MagicbyAlfred wrote: Man Oh man! I paid ten times that for the one I picked up at a yard sale! Did I get ripped off?


That kind of thinking can drive one mad, Alfred. You pay X amount for a book or prop and then discover that a magic buddy paid far less than you did for the same item at a yard sale. Bear in mind that even if you overpaid for the item, your success in the acquisition ended the hard work of continued search. That is worth the extra money paid, given that certain magic books and props are really hard to find.


Agreed.

What really drives me mad though is remembering how I threw away so much original Tenyo stuff that I had as a kid.