Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

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Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 17th, 2016, 3:07 pm

Just received this news from his daughter, Robin. No further details.
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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Ted M » March 17th, 2016, 3:23 pm

Somebody needs to sit down with the Reaper and distract him with a game of chess.

Seriously.

He is out of control.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby performer » March 17th, 2016, 4:55 pm

I am so sorry to hear this. I got on very well with Derek.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Tom Frame » March 17th, 2016, 7:29 pm

Years ago, Derek posted on this forum. He acknowledged his alcoholism and was aware of the degree to which it negatively impacted his life and his relationships. I enjoyed his tangential, Tequila-fueled ramblings and was disappointed when he was banned, but I understand why it happened.

Hopefully he is now at peace.
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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby performer » March 18th, 2016, 10:08 am

I brought Derek into the Buskers Cafe where he amused us all with his drunken ramblings and we didn't mind a bit. He confessed he admired me greatly and he was sober at the time. After that to me he could do no wrong. Then one day for no apparent reason he stopped posting. I hoped he was OK then some time after I read he had been injured in a fire and I was worried about him. I had no idea if he was dead or alive. It seems that he must have survived the fire after all but succumbed only recently.

I really liked him.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Roger M. » March 18th, 2016, 2:16 pm

I noted in a thread a few months ago that Derek was (and still is) revered in the model train world as an author and thinker that fundamentally changed the hobby.
He was a highly respected author of many articles on model train doing's.

It's amazing how many different sides people can have.

Sad news about Derek, I never think poorly of people who suffer from alcoholism, it's a horrible disease, and often results in many "wasted" years.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Bill Mullins » March 18th, 2016, 3:21 pm

Roger M. wrote:I noted in a thread a few months ago that Derek was (and still is) revered in the model train world as an author and thinker that fundamentally changed the hobby.
He was a highly respected author of many articles on model train doing's.


If you search the model train forums, you see much confirmation of Roger's statement. I haven't found any of these articles to link to, but here is one he wrote from an electronics hobbyist magazine (go to page 79). Page 47 of this magazine has an article he wrote that would be of interest to magicians -- a light switch board that is difficult to figure out.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Steve Bryant » March 18th, 2016, 3:33 pm

I have never read anything about the Professsor's grandchildren. Does anyone know about their lives and whether they took any interest in, or even met, their grandfather?

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Roger M. » March 19th, 2016, 12:36 am

Steve Bryant wrote:I have never read anything about the Professsor's grandchildren.


First post in this thread, his Grandaughter contacted Richard to let him know (and by extension let us know) that Derek had passed away.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Roger M. » June 2nd, 2016, 5:53 pm

It's interesting, if one takes an interest in, and subsequently does some investigation into the history of the classic Money Making Machine genre, one quickly finds out that Derek Verner constructed some of the most desirable, and highly crafted Money Making Machines out there.

One of the hand-made Derek Verner Money Making Machines today is not only very valuable, but essentially so rare as appear non-existent!

A model train legend and a money making machine legend ... as well the son of a legend - Derek was an interesting guy.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Richard Kaufman » June 2nd, 2016, 6:51 pm

When Dai Vernon was "roasted" at the New York Magic Symposium in, I think, 1987, Derek Verner and his son were there. I asked The Professor if he saw his grandson often, and he replied that it was the first time he'd met him!

Vernon was not a family man.
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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Krenz » June 3rd, 2016, 3:22 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:Vernon was not a family man.
I think of him as a family man.

Magic was his family.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Roger M. » June 3rd, 2016, 9:48 am

The Professor was worthy of many accolades, but "family man" isn't one of them ... regardless of definition.

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Re: Derek Verner (Dai Vernon's Son) Has Died

Postby Pepka » June 8th, 2016, 6:10 am

A well known magician once told me that no matter how hard he strives, he'll never be as good as a magician as Vernon was.....and that's OK. But if he can become a better family man, that's all he needs.


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