http://fullstory.co/68ipq5?ref=twt
And lots of posts all round on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dannycoleLA with the one calling the other a liar

Hi all, I’ve tried reaching out to Danny several times today to have a conversation privately about this with no success. Ethics and friendship are very important to me, so needless to say this has been a gut-wrenching day. This is not something I take lightly. As Danny says, the horizontal suspension effect from THEM (see photo below from 2003) is a creation of Rico and Chris', who gave me permission to use as a part of the first dance at my wedding. Danny and I were both a part of THEM and were both inspired by the same illusion. I worked hard to ensure that my effect didn’t replicate Danny’s invisible chair, or Cyril’s one-legged matrix. All similar in concept and methods, but distinctly different effects. And as Danny states, he has no problem with me replicating the horizontal lean as I did, and was given permission to do. Danny’s complaint is in regards to method. I think it’s important to clarify that I never saw the gimmick used in THEM. And I’ve never seen Danny’s gimmick nor do I know the specifics of his method, or Cyril’s etc. The fact that there even IS a gimmick is not something that should be discussed in a public forum like this to begin with. I approached Craig Dickens to build a method that would achieve the effect you see below, but would also allow me to move about freely. I think Danny’s screen grabs misrepresent similarities between his performance and mine. It’s disheartening that Danny didn’t give me a chance to discuss his concerns privately before posting such a damaging statement and subsequent comment thread. I understand that many of the people who commented above are unaware that Danny’s illusion was based on the THEM illusion seen below, but I think that the history behind the effect is very important here. Danny asked Rico’s permission to adapt the yoga lean for use in his act just as I asked Rico’s permission to adapt the yoga lean for use in my wedding first dance. I have no intention of doing this effect in my live show or in any professional capacity. My goal was to give my wedding guests a special treat and when I saw the video of my dad’s reaction I wanted to share it online. I’m eager to chat with Danny privately, but until then I hope this provides more clarity.
Ted M wrote:I'm wondering how consistent people's viewpoints are on these matters.
Do folks view Harry Kellar as the scum of the earth? He stole and stole and stole major works from other performers.
How about Billy Robinson/"Chung Ling Soo"? He stole everything about Ching Ling Fu -- his name, his tricks, his persona, his culture.
Mr Jerx's large-scope analysis sidesteps the question of who is right, and notes that Willman took the tools and created a genuinely magical performance that touched legions of laypeople.
History suggests that this field has no problem rewarding dishonest magicians IF their performance is transcendently magical.
Q. Kumber wrote:Mr Willman has replied on his Facebook page.
Whatever the ins and outs are, he makes one statement that I do not believe. He says that he only decided to share the video when he saw his father's reaction at the end of the dance (I'm assuming that's the man with his hands in the air). Considering this is a professionally shot video and the dance is obviously well rehearsed, I can't accept that he hadn't planned to get as much media coverage as possible.
NCMarsh wrote:Q. Kumber wrote:Mr Willman has replied on his Facebook page.
Whatever the ins and outs are, he makes one statement that I do not believe. He says that he only decided to share the video when he saw his father's reaction at the end of the dance (I'm assuming that's the man with his hands in the air). Considering this is a professionally shot video and the dance is obviously well rehearsed, I can't accept that he hadn't planned to get as much media coverage as possible.
The video was not professionally shot -- it was filmed by a friend on an iPhone.
Q. Kumber wrote:NCMarsh wrote:Q. Kumber wrote:Mr Willman has replied on his Facebook page.
Whatever the ins and outs are, he makes one statement that I do not believe. He says that he only decided to share the video when he saw his father's reaction at the end of the dance (I'm assuming that's the man with his hands in the air). Considering this is a professionally shot video and the dance is obviously well rehearsed, I can't accept that he hadn't planned to get as much media coverage as possible.
The video was not professionally shot -- it was filmed by a friend on an iPhone.
Then I must congratulate the friend for having hands so steady that it would put a tripod to shame.
NCMarsh wrote:
Indeed -- when I first saw this I assumed it was professionally done, but the person who shot it is a performer who is very much a part of our community and was there as a guest, filming on his phone.
Brad Henderson wrote:when you know you will be using an idea someone else has done extensive work on and has proprietary interest, what excuse does one have for not asking permission first?
JHostler wrote:Brad Henderson wrote:when you know you will be using an idea someone else has done extensive work on and has proprietary interest, what excuse does one have for not asking permission first?
So we need to ask permission before performing something for family and friends at a private gathering? I don't think so.
Brad Henderson wrote:JHostler wrote:Brad Henderson wrote:when you know you will be using an idea someone else has done extensive work on and has proprietary interest, what excuse does one have for not asking permission first?
So we need to ask permission before performing something for family and friends at a private gathering? I don't think so.
if it's not your invention and the creator hasn't sold it to you or released it through a means you have ethically obtained , then you don't have any business performing it for anybody. There are plenty of tricks out there. You don't need to steal from people who don't want their material out there to satisfy your own selfishness
Brad Henderson wrote:spoken like someone who has taken ideas from others all of his life. I suppose you believe it is ok to go to a magicians show and then copy their tricks and patter word for word, because, after all, to not do so would be absurd?
Our thieving forum member likely cares only about his own pleasure and satisfaction, which is why he is content to be a unwelcome parasite , living off the hard work and creativity he can lift from
others.
Brad Henderson wrote:...something copied from another person's act...
Brad Henderson wrote:he replicates the same look as Danny's illusion. Not possible with other methods.