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Postby Dustin Stinett » July 7th, 2015, 8:46 pm

Don't know why, but it reminds me of Warner Bros.' Sam Sheepdog.

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Postby JHostler » July 7th, 2015, 10:49 pm

A 47-year-old man making like a punk version of Justin Bieber? I just don't get it.
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Postby Banachek » July 8th, 2015, 11:51 am

"I just don't get it"

and there is your answer why Criss is having the success he is and doing an article for Rolling Stone and you are writing negatives things on a magic board.

Says so much when every post plus the subject here is negative. The video and article are good for magic.

I have also noticed not one of the fantastic articles about THE SUPERNATURALISTS have been posted on this forum. Hmmmm.. I gonna go out on a very thin limb and predict that someone will have something negative to say about these great reviews.

http://www.celebrityradio.biz/review-cr ... sort-2015/

http://www.examiner.com/review/criss-an ... t-foxwoods

http://www.digitaljournal.com/a-and-e/e ... cle/437057
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Postby Brad Henderson » July 8th, 2015, 5:16 pm

apparently the most memorable scripting of the show is 'hey how are you guys doing tonight' because one of the authors referenced it and versions there of three times.

and Criss 'selflessly' picked magicians to mount a show that is being used to promote his name and build his bank account - methinks the author either doesn't know the meaning of the word or has been cribbing too much from the press releases.

me also thinks the word 'great' may not hold the same meaning as it once was.

I'm sure the show is fine. It was fine when it was called the illusionists.

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Postby Dustin Stinett » July 8th, 2015, 5:52 pm

Banachek missed Robin Leach's positive comments in the Las Vegas Sun:

http://lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2015 ... rer-first/

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Postby Banachek » July 9th, 2015, 3:16 pm

Brad.. to say "I'm sure the show is fine. It was fine when it was called the illusionists. " shows a huge amount of ignorance. It really, really, really (and I can't say really enough times to emphasize) does...

You have not even seen the show, it shows bias and a lack of professionalism in our craft. It would be hard to take ANY REVIEW you give of a Criss Angel production serious as a result. You have become judge and jury before the trial. Wow.

I would say for you to say that you must be blind, it is NOTHING like that show you mentioned. Let alone being it. I could go on and on why it is not but what is the point. I would simply be giving fuel to a useless Hypothetical debate.

You are so much smarter than this. Obviously this is personal and not about the magic, the show or the spectacle. I feel for you my friend.
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Postby Dustin Stinett » July 9th, 2015, 3:58 pm

Unfortunately there is no further tour information on the (direct) Supernaturalists' site. When the schedule for more shows is available, let me know and I will be happy to post it here (if you, or someone else, doesn't do it).

I cannot say that it will not be met with some hostility--it's a Criss Angel thing, and I do not think that the Genii Forum is unique in that regard--but I am not averse from seeing the show if it comes to Southern California.

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Postby Banachek » July 9th, 2015, 4:25 pm

THanks Dustin,

info coming in soon and as soon as it does I will send to you.

All the best and fully understand that it will not be met by all in the same manner.
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Postby Brad Henderson » July 9th, 2015, 7:38 pm

no, it's about Criss Angel. and since to him everything is always about Criss angel, seems it's only fair game.

and to the point, two words: "track record"

you don't want us to review all that again. never comes out well for the boss.

if you didn't want everyone to think the show a clone,
you shouldn't have made it look like a clone

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Postby JHostler » July 9th, 2015, 11:53 pm

Banachek wrote:"I just don't get it"

and there is your answer why Criss is having the success he is and doing an article for Rolling Stone and you are writing negatives things on a magic board.


Well, no. Not really. What I said I "don't get" has nothing to do with his money or his new show. It's his awkward, mid-life Punk Bieber crisis.
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Postby mr_goat » July 12th, 2015, 4:39 pm

It's so cute Steve always comes here to defend his boss.

I imagine the hit and run post from "Ann" is him too.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » July 12th, 2015, 5:49 pm

Yes that would be "Ana-Check." :lol:
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Postby Banachek » July 16th, 2015, 3:01 pm

MR Goat, I post under my own name and would NEVER post under a fake name.. I despise that and think it is ridiculous for people to do. and find it f ing insulting ANYONE would think I would do that, I have always said everything whether people agree or not under my name. If you have something to say have the balls to say it under your own name is my belief.

Also if one is forced to sign in under a pseudonym, you can always add a signature so people know who you are

Kind of a stupid thing to even say considering I have Never had a problem saying what I think under my name. Richard, you know better than that and to add to that idea (rumor) "Ann Achek" is.. well.. immature.

As for being cute defending my "BOSS" no.. I defend what what think is right and if you can't understand that then that is your problem not mine. This kind of nonsense is pathetic and so high school.
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Postby Brad Henderson » July 16th, 2015, 4:15 pm

High school - like firing someone for not mentioning his name enough times in an article? or high school like lying about one's ratings or attendance records? or high school as in stealing other people's tricks?

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Postby Richard Kaufman » July 16th, 2015, 4:56 pm

It was just a pun!
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Postby Tom Gilbert » July 16th, 2015, 8:21 pm

For what it's worth, I thought it was a decent pun Richard. Also, a friend went to Foxwoods to see the show and thought the only part worth the time was Banachek's.

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Postby Banachek » July 16th, 2015, 10:43 pm

IT is and was a good pun Richard but also adds fuel for those who are making the accusation they were making and that accusation was.. well.. just plain wrong and mean.

Brad, families fight, people change, heck there are things we all do and say we wish we had not. And I certainly would not not want to be judged by those things. I am sure you have done things you wish you had not want to be judged by. If not then you are more a man and human than most.

Criss is my friend, he is a good person, a caring person and has done a lot more for our art than most. He has helped many people behind the scenes both professionally and personally. He is is allowing other magicians to hop on his brand and take a ride to the top with his support. Can't say that about any other top magicians out there.

There are reasons I consider him a good friend, much more than I consider him my boss.

Have have defended others in our profession as well. Some I am close to, some not so close. Heck Brad I even defended you once or twice.

Anyway enough.
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Postby mr_goat » July 17th, 2015, 6:04 am

Banachek wrote:MR Goat, I post under my own name and would NEVER post under a fake name..


I know Americans often struggle with understanding irony, so I propose this post be used in schools across your fine land as a text book example.

Someone called Steve Shaw, posts under the fake name Banachek, whilst professing he would never post under a fake name.

It's just delicious!
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Postby mr_goat » July 17th, 2015, 6:06 am

Banachek wrote:Criss is my friend, he is a good person, a caring person and has done a lot more for our art than most. .



He sure has. Now, he totally pioneered using stooges, camera tricks, stealing other people's material and lying about the number of people seeing your [censored] show.

Way to go!

You must be proud to be employed by such a stand up top notch chap.
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Postby Brad Henderson » July 17th, 2015, 8:32 am

I'm sure criss has done a lot of things. But the one thing he hasn't done is admit lying, apologize, or, to my knowledge, attempt to make things right with those whom he has harmed.

And his TV shows (with stooges/camera tricks etc) are not good for magic. I realize that is my opinion but I would be happy to have that debate. But I can simply
point to the disappointment of people who attended his live show as evidence. They expected illusions comparable to that which they had seen on TV, and in believe, the best magic was still the camera tricks.

Criss's one insight was using the power of celebrity to influence the audience's perception of talent. A clever ruse. But it only works on the gullible and sycophantic.

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Postby Banachek » July 17th, 2015, 10:08 am

Mr goat.. not your just goating me.

Would you expect Copperfield to post under his give name, or most stars. Would be very confusing

Banachek is my name, is my identity, is how I live my life. IT is my trademark and my business name, credit card name, Steven Shaw is not. Banxchek therefor is not a fake identity or fake name.. it is my identity. In fact if I posted under Steven Shaw most would not know who that person is. As a result of that nonsensical statement I now realize that your job here is to flame and stir the pot and that you are not to be taken serious at all in any way.

Brad, if what you say is true then I am not sure why people come and see Criss show time and time again and why he is friends (best friends in many situations) with people who he has had differences in the past. It really seems you ARE indeed living in the past.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » July 17th, 2015, 10:44 am

Banachek, has he really made up with people? I wanted to put Krystyn Lambert on the cover of Genii and he wouldn't allow it. She said she had to run it past her boss, and he put the kabosh on it.
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Postby AJM » July 17th, 2015, 11:16 am

Banachek wrote:Would you expect Copperfield to post under his give name, or most stars.


So you consider yourself a star?

How very modest of you.

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Postby mr_goat » July 17th, 2015, 11:22 am

Banachek wrote:Banachek is my name.


Your *fake* name is Banachek.

And I spat out my coffee laughing at you calling yourself a star and likening yourself to Copperfield. That's funny!

Anyway, that's besides the point. The real point is your boss lowered the art of magic by using camera tricks and stooges, stole stuff, and lies about ticket sales.
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Postby Sebastian B » July 17th, 2015, 11:40 am

I find this discussion interesting, Criss Angel is extremely successful, with his own shows both on tv and vegas. At the end of the day that most be what matters.

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Postby Ted M » July 17th, 2015, 12:49 pm

William Robinson stole a rival's ethnic identity, style and act.

Kellar stole, among others, the Davenport brothers' spirit cabinet and the Maskelyne levitation.

Thurston cheated theater managers and hotel owners.

Historically, the field has not been an honorable one.
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Postby Brad Henderson » July 17th, 2015, 1:16 pm

I am working with real people performing and teaching magic all summer. Their opinion of Angel: it's all camera tricks.

So, 'successful' may be measured with different yard sticks apparently. Madoff, if you looked at his bank account, was successful. So was Val Valentino.

I do not believe criss Angel ia good for magic. I believe criss is using magic to be famous. I have seen nothing that indicates to me that criss cares about anything other than criss.

yeah, I heard about all of his 'unheard of' charity work. I heard about it a dozen times. I was WMS and saw what a hostage situation that was

you want to move out of the past, then own up to it and show us you have changed, criss.

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Postby Banachek » July 17th, 2015, 2:02 pm

And who puts the idea it is camera tricks in peoples minds?? By the way that is a rhetorical question as we know who and it is those people who are hurting magic.

Success breeds jealousy and contempt and this here is a rabbit orgy of contempt. Holy [censored]. Sad, really very sad to see the amount of energy put into negativity rather than positivity.

here is a test for ya :-) http://www.positivityratio.com/single.php
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Postby Joe Mckay » July 17th, 2015, 2:29 pm

Banachek - I heard Penn Jillette tell the story of how you gave Penn and Teller your version of the bullet catch.

It is the coolest story I have ever heard. Congrats on a great trick. And on being such a mensch as to offer P&T your trick as a thank you for their work with James Randi.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » July 17th, 2015, 2:43 pm

Banachek: I was on set for the shooting of Criss's second TV special Supernatural, as well as for part of the shooting of seasons 1 and 2 of Mindfreak.

So I cannot allow you to make this statement on my forum without a response: "And who puts the idea it is camera tricks in peoples minds?"

I was on set. I know what I saw. Over and over and over and over again.
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Postby P.T.Widdle » July 17th, 2015, 2:43 pm

Can we please stay on topic?

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Postby brianarudolph » July 17th, 2015, 2:47 pm

Banachek wrote:... and this here is a rabbit orgy of contempt.


I'm somehow missing the connection here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cykocurt/5611975327

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Postby observer » July 17th, 2015, 3:02 pm

AJM wrote:
Banachek wrote:Would you expect Copperfield to post under his give name, or most stars.

So you consider yourself a star?
How very modest of you.
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I can't imagine that anybody who knows much about mentalism would dispute that Banachek is a star in that field.

And, "Banachek" is his real name for practical purposes. He appears on stage under that name, has published books under that name, is generally known and recognized by that name. It's not at all a "fake name" the way "Observer" is.

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Postby Brad Henderson » July 17th, 2015, 3:17 pm

just had another person come up Without prompting and say "criss Angel, isn't he all just camera editing?"

the evidence is there. Or are you calling moehering a liar too?

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Postby AJM » July 17th, 2015, 3:18 pm

Observer

I have no issue with what poster's call themselves on the Genii Forum - what gave you the impression I did?

With regard to 'stars' - anyone that refers to themselves as such is a dick.

Hope that clarifies matters.

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Postby Brad Henderson » July 17th, 2015, 4:00 pm

How about a challenge . We pick 5 tricks criss has done on TV. He can pick any 3 of those and if he can replicate them exactly with truly random spectators under the same conditions he alleges on the show he wins.

That would prove no camera tricks and stooges, right? He wins he gets the to brag that he is the real deal . He loses, he disappears from magic.

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Postby Banachek » July 17th, 2015, 4:16 pm

Richard, I can't let that reply go without an answer, the others are just silly to reply to.

However, I remember a very specific conversation where we were setting up a trick and you telling Criss he was doing it the hard way, why go to all that work when he could just use a stooge and Criss said (Paraphrase due to many years)that he was not going to stooge it. You were surprised we were going that extra effort.

Not going into methods here because why should I give our methods away to pacify those who don't know and think otherwise.
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Postby mr_goat » July 17th, 2015, 4:41 pm

You know what, I think he really thinks they aren't stooges and camera tricks.

Steve spent months lying for randi years ago.

He wouldn't think he could fool magicians just telling barefaced lies.

He can't be that stupid. So he must actually believe it.
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Postby NYCJoePItt » July 17th, 2015, 5:03 pm

Forgive my non-sequitur intrusion but I do find this pissing contest more tantalizing than the Criss Angel urinal cakes they put out during Magic Live one year... :shock:


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