Michael Close wrote:Mr. Goat:
I just want to make sure I understand your post.
Are you calling me a liar?
Not at all.
Michael Close wrote:Mr. Goat:
I just want to make sure I understand your post.
Are you calling me a liar?
Richard Kaufman wrote:Yes, Mike, he is calling you a liar
Michael Close wrote:P&T are not students of card magic. Although the segment in which P&T try to figure out what happened was edited for time, you can still see Teller reversing cards, trying to test if the cards were stripped.
The cull beat them completely. The head-on shot at the end showed a flop, but when you're on top of the trick (as P&T were and as Johnny and I were during the preliminary run-through) you don't see it.
They were fooled.
And I don't appreciate being called a liar.
Bill Mullins wrote:See for yourself. Fooled the doodoo out of me.
Richard Kaufman wrote:I doubt that Teller had ever heard of Kostya Kimlat before he appeared on the show.
Brad Henderson wrote:But here is the question that I think is relevant: does it matter?
mr_goat wrote:Michael Close wrote:On another forum, a post was made that P&T had to have known how Kostya did his trick and that their reactions were faked. This is absolutely untrue.
Penn is a bit stupid, so it might have fooled him.
Brad Henderson wrote:so the claim being made is that this is the one reality show that is really real? a novelty in the television world and one can understand rightful suspicion.
Brad Henderson wrote:But here is the question that I think is relevant: does it matter?
Bob Farmer wrote:
I was just out in the barn speaking with Mr. Pig, and he agrees with me.
mr_goat wrote:Brad Henderson wrote:so the claim being made is that this is the one reality show that is really real? a novelty in the television world and one can understand rightful suspicion.
Heh. Exactly.Brad Henderson wrote:But here is the question that I think is relevant: does it matter?
Not even slightly.
Insert "arguing on the internet/special olympics" image here.
Brad Henderson wrote:I think this show would be just as interesting if people dI'd a trick and then spun a wheel to see if they got to throw a pie into the face of either of the judges.
Leo Garet wrote:Brad Henderson wrote:I think this show would be just as interesting if people dI'd a trick and then spun a wheel to see if they got to throw a pie into the face of either of the judges.
Me too, although there'd be disappointments along the way, if only ONE person got to throw a pie,
Brad Henderson wrote:I personally think it is sad that magic has to stoop to reality TV 'talent contest' nonsense to get aired,
so in my mind the less serious they take those elements the better.
Brad Henderson wrote:did I miss a fight? Bummer. That'll teach me to not not read the web and drive.
Brad Henderson wrote:
so I do not think the show 'works' or is successful because of the contest factor. That may be how it got put on TV, but not the reason people seem to be enjoying it. No real person I have spoken to has ever mentioned the fact that anyone has won or lost. They just remember the acts.
Richard Kaufman wrote:Widdle, don't tell me how to do my job. I do not monitor the Forum every minute of the day, but when I see remarks like that I delete them. It's not your job to tell me to do so.
Bill Marquardt wrote:I just don't believe that Penn's hamming it up when he was fooled means that the result was faked.
performer wrote:That is why I think performing magic for other magicians is completely pointless.
Tom Frame wrote:Kostya's Triumph was terrific! I loved Penn's bombastic reaction.
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