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Interesting intellectual property suit

Postby Master Payne » August 30th, 2012, 6:38 pm

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Re: Interesting intellectual property suit

Postby Ray Banks » August 30th, 2012, 11:34 pm

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Re: Interesting intellectual property suit

Postby R.E.Byrnes » August 31st, 2012, 2:30 am

The company being sued, for defamation, is being sued under the sure-loser theory that, by bringing copyright-infringement suits against the magic shop, the magic shop is being defamed. (It's a defamation case, not an intellectual property case.) As you might imagine, if there were a doctrine whereby merely bringing a lawsuit that made the person or company being sued look bad was coextensive with defamation, then nearly every lawsuit would be effectively nullified by a defamation suit, in retaliation. This plaintiff magic shop is likely to lose, and very early in the case, before it ever really gets started.

Ironically, the case might be so speculative as to be deemed a frivolous or malicious prosecution: The irony being that, only if the copyright suits that are at-issue in the defamation suit were first found to be similarly frivolous or without reasonable foundation could there be a tenable defamation suit -- and even then the defamation action would be on dubious ground.

That said, novel causes of action do occasionally arise, and perhaps there's an inroad somewhere in Washington State law. However, unless the plaintiff's side in the defamation suit is both well financed and represented by a first-rate firm -- not something you typically see when a magic shop is the client -- the case is likely to be a short-lived embarrassment.

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Re: Interesting intellectual property suit

Postby Bob Farmer » August 31st, 2012, 7:30 am

I read the article slightly differently. It seems to be saying that the defendant has no basis for making a copyright infringement claim, perhaps because the material involved does not have a copyright. There is a lot of confusion among the public among what's a copyright, what's a trademark, what's a patent, etc. So the plaintiff takes the position there is no copyright and sues for defamation. The defense would be that there is -- and suddenly a defamation suit becomes a copyright case.

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Re: Interesting intellectual property suit

Postby R.E.Byrnes » August 31st, 2012, 1:35 pm

If the defendant were suing and alleging copyright infringement when no copyright is in fact plausibly at issue, that would be sufficiently meritless for it to be a basis for defamation liability -- i.e., accusing the plaintiff of copyright infringement with no foundation whatsoever. That's certainly a possibility. However, it's more likely that the underling copyright lawsuits have some tenable basis in copyright law than that they don't.

But that's ultimately just a guess. You could very well be exactly right -- in which case it would be both a defamation case and an interesting case.


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