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Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 5:35 am
by Mike Remington
For the big names, I would go with Johnny Thompson or Harry Lorayne. There are also many people on this forum who I think would be interesting to talk with - Pete Biro and Bob Farmer seem like they would have many stories, for example.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 5:38 am
by Mike Remington
For the big names, I would go with Johnny Thompson or Harry Lorayne. There are also many people on this forum who I think would be interesting to talk with - Pete Biro and Bob Farmer seem like they would have many stories, for example.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 11:40 am
by Dustin Stinett
I dont want this to sound like Pete is a has been, but the fact is there was a time when, to my generation, Pete was one of the big guys. His act was uniqueits not every day that you see a guy perform very strong magic while being funny AND on skatesand his column in Genii (the Reel Work) was the first thing I read. Pete is still, and will always be, that guy to me. And yes, he has some great stories!

Ive never met Mr. Farmer, but, well, he isyou knowa lawyer.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 12:07 pm
by Pete McCabe
Now that I think of it, my real list would have all the people whom I respect and have had nice email exchanges with but have never met in person. Bob Farmer is high on that list, along with James Swain, Jon Racherbaumer, Bob Neale, and Guy Hollingworth. I might also like to have dinner with Derek Delgaudiowhom I know and see most weeks at the castleso he can help me out with the Truffle Shuffle, which I'm starting to learn. Man that's a bitch.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 12:22 pm
by R.E.Byrnes
Pete Biro really did turn up constantly in the formative years of those now in their 30s/40s; and he's still full of vitality. Also, the other Pete - McCabe - is endlessly interesting, on seemingly any topic. (And his Truffle Shuffle is certainly far better than mine.)

There aren't a great many of the old-time magic dealers left; but perhaps some of them -- Tony Spina, Hank Lee, etc. -- ought to be represented here. What they lack in depth, in comparison to some of the elite performers, they might make up for in the breadth of having known so many of those performers, and in some of their most candid and creative moments. The stories about the back-room sessions and Saturday lunches never fail to deliver, and I always fall for the kicker on those stories; often something like: "and the guy doing coins over in the corner was . . . David Roth. . . "

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 17th, 2012, 6:53 pm
by Pete Biro
thanks for all your kind words.... Come by most Wednesday's at Dean Dill's shoppe and let's chat.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 18th, 2012, 1:09 pm
by Pete McCabe
The only reason Pete wasn't on my list is that I've spent several great Wednesday Afternoons with Peteand Dean, and many other great magiciansat Dean's. These visits are exactly, I think, what this thread is about. Peteand Dean, for that matteris smart, funny, knows everyone and everything, has done it all, has great stories, and is a tremendously nice guy.

Meanwhile I am available for dinner.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 18th, 2012, 7:03 pm
by Eric DeCamps
Amilcar:

Muchas Gracias for posting Ascanios thoughts about me. He was always very supportive of my magic and me. I am still a BIG fan and admirer of his magic and his magic philosophies. It was an honor to be his translator when he visited the USA.

Ive been looking for an excuse to visit the great city of Barcelona. Lets see what we can work out! :)

Un Abrazo Fuerte Hermano!

Eric Decamps
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Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 1:53 pm
by Mark Paulson
For me, it would be David Williamson. He cracks me up.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 3:34 pm
by Donhdunn
I tossed $15 toward Vanishing, Inc., and last week downloaded Williamson's 90-minute lecture to some group...funny, informative, his story about Vernon practicing a top change is hysterical...great salt/thumbtiip routine, just a few effects but great listening/watching all the way through. Oh, but he does make everything look so easy.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 4:32 pm
by mrgoat
Dondunn wrote:I tossed $15 toward Vanishing, Inc., and last week downloaded Williamson's 90-minute lecture to some group...funny, informative, his story about Vernon practicing a top change is hysterical...great salt/thumbtiip routine, just a few effects but great listening/watching all the way through. Oh, but he does make everything look so easy.


for the money, it seemed rude to say no, but I bloody hate the watermarking.

Image

this kind of branding is EASY to get around with cropping and brands me as a thief from the get go.

it's vanishing inc saying "we are going to assume you're going to upload this to filesharing sites, although we know nothing about you at all"

It's like buying a suit, and them not taking out the security tag.

There are many many clever ways of invisibly watermarking content I expected better from Vanishing Inc...This is clumsy and offensive imho.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 5:48 pm
by Bill Mullins
Funny, Damian, they watermarked mine the same way:

[img:center]https://img.skitch.com/20120821-fba17jhxgcwdumemixykagete7.jpg[/img]

:)

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 7:02 pm
by mrgoat
Bill Mullins wrote:Funny, Damian, they watermarked mine the same way:

[img:center]https://img.skitch.com/20120821-fba17jhxgcwdumemixykagete7.jpg[/img]

:)


I just spat out wine laughing. Good work, Sir.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 7:06 pm
by mrgoat
Watermarking aside, it's a bloody good lecture. The vernon top change story is great and the little, almost thrown away coin in bottle idea is delicious. Bargain for 15 bucks.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 9:48 pm
by MaxNY
I really have been blessed by having spent many evenings with Walter Gibson, Jeff McBride, Rudy Coby, Larry Weeks, Dr. Morris Young, and Mike Bornstein.

I would like to spend an evening with Copperfield, or Dematos.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 21st, 2012, 10:45 pm
by Bill Mullins
Awfully glad you took my little joke in the spirit in which it was intended.

I saw Williamson lecture and perform at a regional convention in Atlanta, GA about 12 years ago one of those times where I just about hurt myself laughing. He gets so much credit for funny that its easy to forget what a good magician he is.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 22nd, 2012, 1:15 am
by Pete McCabe
Ask Williamson to tell you the story about doing the cigarette through quarter for Siegfried and Roy.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 22nd, 2012, 5:13 am
by mrgoat
Pete McCabe wrote:Ask Williamson to tell you the story about doing the cigarette through quarter for Siegfried and Roy.


It's on the lecture. Very funny.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 23rd, 2012, 7:41 pm
by Ruben Padilla
Easy.

Michael Weber.

Hope I have the chance someday...

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 23rd, 2012, 8:00 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Ruben, come to the Genii Convention and you might have the chance.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 23rd, 2012, 10:05 pm
by Edward Pungot
Attending a workshop with Weber is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant. The fire is both started and quenched by the same man. Highly recommended!

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 2:46 am
by Mike Remington
R.E.Byrnes wrote:There aren't a great many of the old-time magic dealers left; but perhaps some of them ... ought to be represented here. .... The stories about the back-room sessions and Saturday lunches never fail to deliver, and I always fall for the kicker on those stories; often something like: "and the guy doing coins over in the corner was . . . David Roth. . . "


The traditional magic shops give us enthusiasts an opportunity to hear great stories and to meet other people visiting the shops. Chance encounters last year gave me the opportunity to talk with 5 people that were authors or subjects of magic books. With a job that requires significant travel, dropping by magic shops in various cities has always been a good way for me to meet people and talk about magic. Unfortunately, such traditional shops are becoming harder to find. Denny & Lee and Fantasma are two good examples of shops that continue that tradition. Fantasma not only gives you an opportunity to meet and talk to David Roth, you also get a chance to see him demo the Sponge Ding Dong.

Reading the posts from the two Petes, I will now be adding a trip to Dean Dill's shop on a Wednesday to my next visit to LA.

Pete McCabe - I would like to take this opportunity to say how much I am enjoying reading Scripting Magic. Thank you.


Dustin Stinett wrote:Ive never met Mr. Farmer, but, well, he isyou knowa lawyer.


There are a few other lawyers on the lists above, so you didn't need to make him sound even more interesting by pointing out his profession. I may be a bit prejudiced, however. When I get the rare chance to perform in a formal setting, I introduce myself by saying: "I have spent most of the last 30 years traveling around the world practicing the art of deception. I have fooled people in more than 50 countries.... When not working as a lawyer, I also do a little magic."

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 3:11 am
by Jonathan Pendragon
Jonathan Pendragon.... it's the only way I can have an intelligent conversation.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 11:08 am
by Dustin Stinett
As I always say, if you can't talk to yourself, who can you talk to?

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 11:33 am
by erdnasephile
Earlier this year, I gave up a chance to talk with Mr. Pendragon because I was too self-conscious to say anything. (Doh!)

Similarly, I was sitting right behind Michael Weber during a Max Maven performance and didn't say a word. (Idiot!)

Finally, I was in Manhattan for the first time as an adult this summer and missed David Roth because I didn't realize he still did the Fantasma thing. (Filthy worm!)

Note to self: don't let chances like this pass by again...

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 11:56 am
by Richard Kaufman
David Roth no longer works at Fantasma.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 12:49 pm
by Alex de Cova
@Jonathan: YEAH! Would LOVE to spend an evening with you, Jonathan!
STILL keep the Samurai sword you presented me with as one of my priced possesions !!!
LOVED the reason WHY you gave it to me (remember? Austria, the Magic hands Convention, Irene Larsen, and so on...)
Best and a big hug, my friend!
Alexander

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 1:19 pm
by luigimar
Talking about chance encounters, in 1986, when I was in San Mateo California, I would go to Merlin's Magic Mansion (whatever happened to them? I've asked about them and got no answer) on El Camino Real. One day I went there and got to meet David Michael Evans, when The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings had just gotten published. I got to watch lots of magic from him and even got some pictures. He told me he had helped publish the book. I bought a copy and got it autographed. Almost at the end of the book there's a section where his name is written and that's where he signed it. I don't remember what effects he performed but I remember I was fascinated watching one of those guys who knows what he talks about. A fond memory I will never forget.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 5:25 pm
by Jonathan Pendragon
I saw Michael Carbonaro in the Parlor at the Castle this week so I was in playful mood when I saw this thread. Michael opens a presentation with "If I could have dinner with anyone living or dead... I would choose living. There is a better chance they would pick-up the tab."

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 5:37 pm
by erdnasephile
Richard Kaufman wrote:David Roth no longer works at Fantasma.


Thanks, Richard: makes me feel a little better at least :)

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 24th, 2012, 7:03 pm
by West McDonough
I'm fortunate enough to know a number of great magicians, several of whom are wonderful conversationalists. I would say that Jonathan Pendragon is still, by far, the best thinker on magic I've ever talked to, but you'd probably say I'm biased :) Still and all, I count myself fortunate to have such a wonderful source of magic knowledge available to me on a daily basis.

Just considering people that I have NOT yet had a lengthy conversation with, I'd have to put Teller at the top of my list. He just seems like a serioiusly interesting guy.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 25th, 2012, 12:56 am
by Jonathan Pendragon
That's what I get for teaching her an Ambitious Ace routine.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 25th, 2012, 3:34 am
by Timothy Hyde
Dinner with - Billy McComb, Jay Marshall, Topper Martyn,

Actualy, I had dinner with them at the Lisbon FISM, it's just that I'd really really like to do it again.

(I can assure you however I didn't do much of the talking, just a whole lot of listening.)

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 25th, 2012, 3:50 am
by BlueEyed Videot
The two greatest magical memories for me have been the opportunity to spend about an hour and a half learning mnemonics one-on-one from Max Maven at the Castle. Max somehow must be related to Jay Marshall, with his deep and practical knowledge of magic.

I also had the extreme pleasure of closing the Castle one night sitting at the entrance Bar listening to Billy McComb hold forth. Billy could get me lauging in two seconds flat, and keep me continually in stitches for hours (or at least until I passed out unable to catch my breath what with all the belly laughing I was doing.)

I think between these two men, one alive and one having just recently shuffled off his mortal coil, know more about entertaining people for a living than just about anyone else. My votes could only go to these two great representatives of our craft.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 25th, 2012, 6:53 am
by Carl Skenes
John Calvert.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 25th, 2012, 8:37 pm
by West McDonough
Another person who is wonderful to talk magic with is Jim Steinmeyer brilliant mind and thorough knowledge of both history and technique. Also a helluva funny guy! :)

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 28th, 2012, 8:16 pm
by Leonard Hevia
I would like to spend an evening discussing magic with Jim Sisti. I remember the first time I saw his photo on the jacket cover of The Magic Menu: The First 5 Years . Sisti is standing in a restaurant holding a deck with the King of Spades face up. I've always wondered what that trick was. I've read many of Sisti's essays in Genii and Magic on the performance of magic in intimate venues like strolling, restaurants and bars, and it feels like I've known him for many years. I enjoyed reading his unpretentious and informative articles and a conversation with him on his performing experiences would make my evening.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 28th, 2012, 11:47 pm
by Bill Mullins
Last year, I got to have breakfast with Michael Weber, Eric Mead, and Derek Del Gaudio. Much of the conversation was about the waitresses, and how good the hash browns were.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 29th, 2012, 12:59 am
by Richard Kaufman
Ah, the mundane aspects of real life.

Re: Poll: With which magician would you like to spend an evening talking magic?

Posted: August 29th, 2012, 1:43 pm
by m pierce
Max Maven. I was not a big fan of his for many years but I saw him on EMC 2012 and was very impressed. Since that time I have done some "googling" and he really has done a great deal for magic, young people, performers and the industry in general. I just ordered one of his books.
Of course dinner would be on me.