AMA "Magic Castle" New boards

[Scotto]

The Board of Directors

Neil Patrick Harris - Vice President
Robert Lamoureux - President
Rich Cowley
Erika Larsen
Jean Boyle - Treasurer
Danny Robinson
Maurice Newman - Secretary

Board of Trustees

Irene Larsen
Max Maven
David Regal
Mark Wilson
Mark Nelson
Jon Armstrong
Joan Lawton

[mai-ling]

These are the people who will be considering
my father (and anyone else) for the
Honorary Lifetime Membership...

...interesting

[Scotto]

These are the people who will be considering
my father (and anyone else) for the
Honorary Lifetime Membership...

...interesting

That would be Board of Trustees

Irene Larsen
Max Maven
David Regal
Mark Wilson
Mark Nelson
Jon Armstrong
Joan Lawton

[Brad Henderson]

I'm sure you'll have no problem convincing them exactly how important your dad was to the history of magic.

[Brandon Hall]

Thanks, Scotto. Congratulations to Rich (wherever you may be...)

[Richard Kaufman]

Nice to see Larsens on both boards.

[mai-ling]

i thought it was the board of directors.
see how much i know about the AMA?

I'm sure you'll have no problem convincing them exactly how important your dad was to the history of magic.

every time a magician does a colored dove act they are
paying homage to him.

[Richard Kaufman]

Frank Brents did a colored dove act.

[Gord]

For those of us who don't know, could someone please explain the difference between the Board of Directors and the Board of Trustees?

Thanks

Gord

[Mark W. Nelson]

Sure, Gord. The AMA Board of Directors handles the business and financial side of the AMA operations, including the hiring of management personnel. The AMA Board of Trustees is charged with the creative, artistic and educational side of the AMA operations, including the award selection, the Castle Library, lectures and magic classes. Occasionally the responsibilities overlap, as when the Director of Entertainment resigned and the Trustees interviewed candidates for his replacement, finally (per the BOD's instructions) providing three capable candidates for the job and making our recommendation.

Best always,

[Gord]

Thanks mark. All clear now.

Gord

[David Oliver]

That's just wrong, Richard.

However, btw, General Grant did (and occasionally still does) a beautifully slow and deliberate dove act, with colored (dyed) doves, that he has been doing for almost 50 years. For those who don't know him, he is not the U.F. "Gen" Grant of magic props building fame. General Grant (yes, it's his real, given name), is a Massachusetts native, whose act known as "Sophisticated Sorcery" played clubs, conventions and events around the country for decades, even though magic wasn't his full-time occupation. His slow-motion dove steals and productions, his "surprise" ending, and his one-handed dove-to-silk-toss are true classics. He had, and is, a class act.

Back on topic.... Congrats to the new board!

[Richard Kaufman]

Sure he did, David. I saw it at least twice--and then he produced the two ducks. The first time I saw it was when Adam Fleischer hired him for one of the New York Magic Symposiums.

[David Oliver]

Richard, I wasn't disputing the fact that Frank used birds of color... it was the way you phrased it, that could have been better...

[Richard Kaufman]

You mean that you figured out it was a pun? Good for you. :)

[David Oliver]

Ah... puns... When I was little, my mom used to charge me 10 cents every time I used a pun. She called it, "Once a pun, a dime." Yup, figured it out all by myself...

[Dustin Stinett]

Use a pun, go to prison.

[Jim Maloney]

Use a pun, go to prison.

That seems to be a cruel and unusual pun-ishment.

-Jim

[Jonathan Townsend]

Think of the folks who view this page via an online translator into their native Chinese, Arabic, Japanese, German...

Idomatic quickly loses a few letters in translation - why rush it?

[mai-ling]

when i made that statement i was referring to something else.

[Bill Mullins]

every time a magician does a colored dove act they are paying homage to him.

When did your Dad start using colored birds? Del Edwards was using them in 1951.

Ed Reno has a trick with dyed doves in the May 1945 Sphinx, and Jean Hugard features a colored dove production in the Apr 1947 Hugard's Magic Monthly, describing how to color the birds with aniline dyes.

[mai-ling]

Its a little fuzzy as far as who could have been
the first magician to use to colored doves.

According to Frances Marshall said it was possibly
Al Wheatley.

She states:
"References have been made in other books to "long ago" appearances of colored doves, we think Al was one of the first...
although he is currently using white birds."

still non-specific.

But my dad got an idea as to the way to
produce doves from Cantu.

The facts that I know is that my dad performed
with yellow doves after he formed his own show
after he was discharged from army. Making him
around the age of 20/21.

Figured out a way to dye them safely.
He performed using them once maybe
twice then, he sold the formula to
Ron Urban for $25.

It was really Ron Urban who perfected the
color dove formula and it was certified
by many animal safety associations and he
toured around the world with his coloured
dove. act.

If anything my father saw an idea from an
animal act that used color pigeons.

He also stated it was Ed Reno (at least I think
it was what he said) that gave him some
doves he had.

he ended up using chinese chickens by accident
mainly because he couldn't stand the doves cooing.

he also previously used a rabbit at one time but
the poor thing went stir crazy in the catch it
bounced up and down and died.


(( made a correction from Cantu to Al Wheatley above
with quote. ))

[Terry]

Use a pun, go to prison.

That seems to be a cruel and unusual pun-ishment.

-Jim

Kewpie Doll winning post. LOL

[Scotto]

Would someone call the TSA, this thread has been hijacked!
:)

[Brian Morton]

I'm reporting this thread to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored Pigeons.

brian

[opie]

cooooooollll.....coooooooollllll......(said the magic bunny)....and don't throw me in that brian patch....tsk tsk...

opie

[Steve Bryant]

Here's a link to a Ron Urban brochure from 1961, featuring his colorful doves:

http://littleegyptmagic.com/ronurban.html