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Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby CraigMitchell » July 18th, 2009, 9:01 am

https://www.fism2009.org/images/Annex_A ... _rules.pdf

All dealers will be notified that can be NO copies of effects, books, DVD's allowed to be sold at the FISM event. IF, the Dealer Committee receives complaints or notices infringements of such, the dealer will be instructed to at once remove the items for sale from their dealer booth-stand. If there is disagreement about the items, the Dealer Committee will investigate the items and obtain opinions from International representatives. IF the Dealer Committee complaints are valid, the dealer will at once remove such items and if not, then the dealer will be expelled by security and NO refund or recourse will be allowed. (AND/OR will not be accepted to any future FISM event or an event sponsored FISM

The FISM is a family event and pornographic materials are not allowed in the dealer room.

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Was there an 'adults only' section in the dealers room at the past FISMs that I missed :cool: They're spoiling all our fun

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 18th, 2009, 10:31 am

Craig, if you'd ever been to a dealer room at a convention in Asia you would know that there are effects sold which show pictures of genitalia and nude bodies. The Asians don't have the same attitude toward this sort of thing that westerners do.
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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Tim Ellis » July 18th, 2009, 11:00 am

So maybe FISM needs to define "pornographic"?

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 18th, 2009, 11:09 am

The definition of pornographic: you know it when you see it.
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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby CraigMitchell » July 18th, 2009, 11:24 am

"... you would know that there are effects sold which show pictures of genitalia and nude bodies. The Asians don't have the same attitude toward this sort of thing that westerners do."

You learn something new every day ...

But now they've sanitised it - what happened to our traditional 'asian cultural' experience :)

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Pete Biro » July 18th, 2009, 11:45 am

Now you know where all the Goshman Ding Dongs went.
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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Pepka » July 18th, 2009, 5:30 pm

Allow it in the dealers room? I didn't think they even allowed that stuff in the country.

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Magic Newswire » July 18th, 2009, 6:45 pm

From this discussion I am anticipating a bit of culture shock... If you are easily offended, avert your eyes from the Sararīman reading Hentai on the trains . (Though this may apply more in Japan than in China)

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Max Maven » July 18th, 2009, 9:58 pm

Magic Newswire wrote:From this discussion I am anticipating a bit of culture shock... If you are easily offended, avert your eyes from the Sarariman reading Hentai on the trains . (Though this may apply more in Japan than in China)


Gee, y'think? Given that "sarariman" and "hentai" are both Japanese words, the logic here is the equivalent of expecting to visit the United States and see gauchos doing bolo dancing.

And, for what it's worth, in the course of countless train rides in Japan over the past 28 years, I have never seen anyone who has publicly displayed his/her reading material, "hentai" or otherwise.

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Magic Newswire » July 19th, 2009, 8:26 am

You're right Max, it probably was a long way to go to illustrate Richard's point about the sensibilities of Asian cultures vs that of the US, but...

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Tom Stone » July 19th, 2009, 10:15 am

Max Maven wrote:the logic here is the equivalent of expecting to visit the United States and see gauchos doing bolo dancing.

I've visited the U.S. twice, and never expected to see anything like that, because I know that your bolo dancing only is done in private.

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby David Scollnik » July 19th, 2009, 12:53 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Craig, if you'd ever been to a dealer room at a convention in Asia you would know that there are effects sold which show pictures of genitalia and nude bodies. The Asians don't have the same attitude toward this sort of thing that westerners do.

Does that apply as much in mainland China, though? I'd read that the China was more conservative about these things compared to, say, Japan.

The effects you've seen which show pictures of genitalia and nude bodies, are these largely the same sort of effects you would find in North America but with different packaging?

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Richard Kaufman » July 19th, 2009, 2:47 pm

They're tricks with paddles and cards, plaques, and so on. Anything which lends itself to having a picture or photo printed on it.

The warning was mostly likely made by FISM because I assume most of the dealers will be from other parts of Asia and assume that what is allowed elsewhere will be allowed in Beijing.

In answer to your question, though, I have indeed seen this sort of thing in the dealers room at the conventions I've been to in Shenzhen.
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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Tim Ellis » July 20th, 2009, 3:33 am

I was curious so I googled 'magic paddle genitalia'... yes, quite shocking!

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Terry » July 20th, 2009, 7:49 pm

Tim - you have way too much time on your hands Mister!

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby Mike Carr » July 21st, 2009, 7:31 pm

That was also A.J. U.S.S.C., Potter Steward's definition :)

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Re: Fun in the FISM Dealer's Room

Postby ForgetRich » July 25th, 2009, 12:16 am

To be honest I do not think unscrupulous dealers who are banned from the room will care. Having experience with Asian conventions I have noticed that there are many "unsanctioned" dealers who set their products up in their room. All they need to do is spread the word and voila, now the potential buyers come to them! That will be almost impossible to stop and believe me it will happen.
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