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Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 10:50 am
by Richard Kaufman
Joe, you are blathering. Please stop.

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: December 11th, 2019, 3:46 pm
by Joe Mckay
It seems Albert Camus was actually the first to describe a character displaying what would later become known as Asperger's syndrome in his novel The Stranger (which was based on a friend of his).

You can read more about that here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5903843/

One movie character I could always relate to was Billy Bob Thornton's character in The Man Who Wasn't There. I wonder if that is another character with aspie traits?

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 1:50 pm
by Joe Mckay
I have done some more research. I don't think I have Asperger's syndrome.

I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). And I just assumed that in the past you had Autism & Asperger's syndrome as two separate categories. But now they have been combined into the same category.

That is only partly true. There are other categories also placed inside ASD. Each of these categories have features in common (eg trouble with social understanding and sensory issues) but are still distinct in certain ways.

The least understood category that is part of ASD is something called Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). I was diagnosed with ASD but I think PDA (which is a sub-category of ASD) is the "flavour" of autism I have.

Somebody with classic autism might struggle with social understanding due to a low IQ.

Somebody with Asperger's syndrome might struggle with the same thing due to a lack of cognitive empathy.

Whereas somebody with PDA will struggle with social understanding due to a pathological need to rebel against all social norms and conventions imposed on them by society. Each and every demand placed on them causes anxiety in their brain which causes them to rebel against the social norm they are expected to abide by.

Science is only interested in labelling behaviours. It is not so interested in the reason behind them. In the same way that physics is only interested in predicting the outcome of an experiment rather than understanding why.

Behaviourly Autism, Asperger's and PDA have similar outcomes but for very different reasons.

This guy has PDA (which remember is part of the Autistic Spectrum).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqjbMSY4JA

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 6:01 pm
by Ian Kendall
If you think of ASD as a colour wheel, rather than a linear spectrum, you'll find it much easier to understand.

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 7:25 pm
by Bill Duncan
Thanks for that that Ian. Color wheels stress me out so much!

; )

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 8:56 pm
by Jack Shalom
This guy has PDA (which remember is part of the Autistic Spectrum).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqjbMSY4JA


When a substantial number of people want to tear down the system, it might do well to ask what label to put on that system rather than the label of those who question it.

Re: Aspergers and Magic?

Posted: January 14th, 2020, 1:41 pm
by Joe Mckay
Yeah - I guess I am aspie. But I seem to have some of this PDA stuff as well. Very confusing.

Anyway - sorry for the non-magic post!