Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

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Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Sebastian B » January 5th, 2017, 10:53 am

HI,

Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery is published in Tarbells Course In Magic Vol. 1 p.215. But I can´t find the trick in the original Tarbell Course In Magic. That would mean that Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery was published in 1941. Dos anyone know if Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery has been published earlier somewhere else?

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Bill Mullins » January 5th, 2017, 12:31 pm

I can't find the exact effect anywhere earlier, but Martin Gardner's "Face to Face Fantasy" (12 Tricks with a Borrowed Deck, 1940, pp 7 - 10) is awfully close. It includes Tenkai's Optical Revolve to do the dirty work. It is, essentially, a two-phase version of "Triumph."

Tenkai's Optical Revolve also appears in "The Shuffle Reverse" by Walter Gibson (Two Dozen Effective Practical Card Tricks, 1927 pp. 37-38).

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Sebastian B » January 5th, 2017, 1:56 pm

Mr Mullins,

Thank you for the anser. Should the Tenkai´s Optical Revolve then be credited to Tenkai? Shouldn't the "Tenkai´s Optical Revolve" be credited to Walter Gibson?

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Bill Mullins » January 5th, 2017, 2:59 pm

Maybe -- I've sent the references to conjuringcredits.com (Stephen Minch, Denis Behr, and others) and will defer to what they say.

Tenkai has been getting credit for 75 years. If credit actually belongs to Gibson, he can wait a little while for it.

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Sebastian B » January 5th, 2017, 3:08 pm

It will be interesting to se what happens. :)

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 5th, 2017, 3:15 pm

No--it's Tenkai's. I've seen the original illustrations and description of it in Tenkai's notebooks in the early 1930s.
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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Sebastian B » January 5th, 2017, 3:21 pm

Wow, thats great :) Richard, do you know if it has been published before it appeared i Tarbell Vol. 1?

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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 5th, 2017, 5:08 pm

I am not sure. Tenkai traveled and performed extensively in the United States prior to WWII, so he certainly would have known Tarbell.
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Re: Tenkai´s Reverse Cards Mystery

Postby Sebastian B » January 5th, 2017, 5:44 pm

Thank you Mr Kaufman and Mr Mullins for answering my questions :) I always learn a lot and always get answers to my questions on the genii forum. :)


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