Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » February 28th, 2015, 9:13 am

It was Matt who removed the sentence. I have demanded that he return it, but he has refused. You know the one I'm talking about, Matt, it starts:

"The real secret which up until now no one has revealed is ...."

I demand you return the sentence. And while you're at it, there are also several commas, a dangling participle and two pronouns that I also want back.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » February 28th, 2015, 9:17 am

One more thing: if you intend to buy the book, you should also buy two (2) of this trick by Tim Ellis:


http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S133

I describe Tim's routine in the book. It comes with a special gaff, but here's why you need two: there are several additional routines explained that use two of the gaffs in question. These are very good routines.

Believe me, you'll thank me for this (and so will Tim).

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby NYCJoePItt » February 28th, 2015, 10:44 am

This may be a demo of Tim's Ten Card Poker Deal from the now defunct Magic Geek, hosted on Vanishing Inc's web site:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9vvKCTwzAM

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Brad Jeffers » February 28th, 2015, 2:57 pm

To utilize a gaff to construct a routine which is inferior to non-gaffed versions seems to me to be a bit ridiculous.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby erdnasephile » February 28th, 2015, 4:27 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:If anyone wants my pathetic signature, add that as a note to the order or let Magicana know and I'll add a signature.

Usually, I sign all my books this way:

"To (insert name of magician).

"I've seen you work. This book is not for you.

"Sincerely, Bob Farmer, Life Coach."


Whoo Hoo! I'm in...and thanks! :D

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 1st, 2015, 8:01 am

The gaffed versions can be superior to the non-gaffed versions in the sense that they look even more impossible. For example, Rene Lavand's routine (which is in the book).

As to autographs, I've had so many requests, I think I'll just sign "Bob Farmer." Otherwise, I'll be signing for days. However, I'll be at the Genii convention in the fall, so catch me there for the full line.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby PickaCard » March 1st, 2015, 8:21 am

Please reconsider signing the full text, at least for a certain number of the requesters, as this was an added incentive to order the book right away.

I will not be dragging a 400 page book with me to the Genii convention, but may drag a few back.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 1st, 2015, 9:55 am

Okay, I can't refuse, since I have about 30 books from famous magicians all signed this way to me.

Do me a favor: anyone who wants the extended signature, send me a note:

bammomagic@cogeco.ca

with the subject line Extended Signature

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 1st, 2015, 11:17 am

My wife had an excellent idea on this. Given my unreadable handwriting, she said that after three or four books, the inscription would be reduced to a meaningless scrawl. She suggested I use a stamp reading, "I've seen you work, this book is not for you."

I think I'll go with that. The stamp makes it even funnier.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Tom Gilbert » March 1st, 2015, 1:44 pm

I think it was Michael Ammar that had a "sincerely" stamp years ago.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 1st, 2015, 2:12 pm

Tom Mullica always signed books with a rubber stamp, something like, "To my closest friend in the world ..." and then his signature.
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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Dustin Stinett » March 1st, 2015, 2:33 pm

Hey Bob, can you accommodate my preference of having my copy signed by the boys from Rush?

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby erdnasephile » March 1st, 2015, 2:35 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:My wife had an excellent idea on this. Given my unreadable handwriting, she said that after three or four books, the inscription would be reduced to a meaningless scrawl. She suggested I use a stamp reading, "I've seen you work, this book is not for you."

I think I'll go with that. The stamp makes it even funnier.


One potential issue with a stamp is that some of those inks can smear badly (depending on the type of paper the book is printed on).

Maybe an embosser?

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby PickaCard » March 1st, 2015, 2:48 pm

That short sentence is creating quite a complication...

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby AJM » March 1st, 2015, 3:21 pm

I'd prefer to have the sentence in my book illuminated by a team of medieval Benedictine monks if that's not too much trouble.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Brad Jeffers » March 1st, 2015, 3:35 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:The gaffed versions can be superior to the non-gaffed versions


I agree.

In fact, gaffed versions of any effect must be superior to the non-gaffed versions in order to justify the use of the gaff.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 1st, 2015, 3:39 pm

Not true: everything is relative. The gaffed version will be superior to the ungaffed version if the gaff removes the parts which are too difficult for the average person to execute.
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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Brad Jeffers » March 1st, 2015, 3:58 pm

I understand your point, but with regards to the Ten Card Poker Deal, are there any versions that include parts that are to difficult for the average person to execute?

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 1st, 2015, 4:34 pm

I've never made a distinction between gaffs and sleights. A gaff does not necessarily make an effect easier and a sleight does not necessarily make it harder. Either method usually makes it possible. I always think about the most effective way to make the most magic.

As to autographs from Rush and monks doing illuminated scrolls--maybe for the next book in this series, The Bammo Flim-Flam CONglomeration.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Brad Jeffers » March 1st, 2015, 7:49 pm

Bob Farmer wrote:I've never made a distinction between gaffs and sleights.


The thing about The Ten Card Poker Deal is that it requires neither.

To incorporate either sleights or gaffs into this effect would only be (in my opinion) counterproductive.

But enough of this.

I must now concentrate on the more important issue of how I want you to sign my copy. ;)

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Pete McCabe » March 1st, 2015, 8:25 pm

You should just put "I've seen you work, this book is not for you" on a page in the intro, then sign under that. It would also make a great ad headline.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Ian Kendall » March 2nd, 2015, 5:45 am

Pete - I may have to put something like that into Massively Overhandled and Derivative...

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Larry Horowitz » March 2nd, 2015, 1:53 pm

Please sign mine at the bottom of the page, leaving room for me to fill in the contract above.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby erdnasephile » March 3rd, 2015, 2:23 pm

Pete McCabe wrote:You should just put "I've seen you work, this book is not for you" on a page in the intro, then sign under that. It would also make a great ad headline.


Great idea!

I think the Flicking Fingers' "The Book" had an "autograph" page with a check box next to the printed signature of each author. The individual authors could then dutifully check the box next to their signature when approached for an autograph in person.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Matthew Field » March 3rd, 2015, 2:52 pm

Correct, and facsimile autographs as well.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 18th, 2015, 9:51 am

Mike Close, M-U-M review in part:

For those of you who are card magic enthusiasts, The Bammo Ten Card Deal Dossier is a no-brainer, must-have purchase. If you have an extensive library, you may already own some of the books that contain the routines Bob has included. But the beauty of this book is the organization of the material. It’s one thing to track down so many examples of the Ten Card Deal; it’s quite another thing to present that material in a logical and cohesive way, so that each chapter builds on the material presented in previous chapters.
Bob is a master at this; it’s one of his gifts. (The other is his ability to spontaneously improvise perfect haiku on any subject.)

If you want to develop your own, personalized version of the Ten Card Deal, you have at your disposal all the tools you need.

Even if you’re not a “card person,” let me offer two reasons why you might find this book useful.

First, the Ten Card Deal is one of the two strongest, almost self-working card tricks. (The other trick would be the aforementioned Out of This World.) It is one of the very few gambling-related card tricks that are technically simple. Many versions can be performed with a borrowed deck of cards, making this the perfect trick to have up your sleeve when a friend at a party hands you a deck and says, “Show us a trick.” It will bamboozle any audience and will leave a lasting impression. What’s that worth to you?

My second reason is this: The Bammo Ten Card Deal Dossier is one of the very few books that shows you how a variety of ingenious creators tackle a common card problem. Contributors to this collection include some of the best magicians on the planet. Studying their solutions can be very enlightening and can aid you as you solve magical problems of your own.

Bottom line: The Bammo Ten Card Deal Dossier is a book that should be in your library. It has taken a very long time to get here, and I’m delighted that it is finally available.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Michael Close » March 18th, 2015, 2:04 pm

This sentence " It is one of the very few gambling-related card tricks that are technically simple."

should be " It is one of the very few gambling-related card tricks that is technically simple."

I corrected this before the magazine went to print, but Bob has an earlier version of the review.

[Just staving off the grammar police.]

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Michael Close » March 18th, 2015, 2:06 pm

By the way, my complete review (which is 2,000 words long) will appear in the April M-U-M.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Doomo » March 18th, 2015, 2:07 pm

Already ordered mine. Lookin forward to it.
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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Matthew Field » March 18th, 2015, 4:10 pm

It is an amazing achievement.

(I'm talking about my editing job.)

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Q. Kumber » March 18th, 2015, 4:44 pm

Matthew Field wrote:It is an amazing achievement.

(I'm talking about my editing job.)

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Far too many people confuse editing with proofreading.

Proofreading is for grammar, punctuation, proper layout etc.

Editing is for clarity, saying something simpler, keeping a flow of thought moving, in other words making the text as easy to follow as possible.

The work of a good editor will help a good book become a great book. Editing a book can sometimes take longer than the author took to write it. It also takes a tactful editor to explain to an author, why so much editing needs to be done.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 18th, 2015, 8:27 pm

Matt Field and Mike Vance did amazing editing work on this book. They each take a different approach so the book got the best of two really sharp minds.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Matthew Field » March 19th, 2015, 9:17 am

Quentin -- I said editing and I meant it,

However - nothing could take longer than it too Bob to write his monster.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Tim Ellis » March 19th, 2015, 9:40 am

Just came across this thread and I want to say THANKS to Bob Farmer for his extremely kind words about my gaff.

I'm doing my poker show 'FULL HOUSE - OR HOW TO GET BANNED FROM EVERY CASINO ON THE PLANET' at THe Melbourne Magic Festival, and one of the main sequences is a full deck TEN CARD POKER DEAL (I play heads up with 5 famous poker players from the past) and concludes with my gaff.

It's SOOOO much fun!

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Q. Kumber » March 19th, 2015, 10:40 am

Matthew Field wrote:Quentin -- I said editing and I meant it,

However - nothing could take longer than it too Bob to write his monster.

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Matt, I know you meant editing.

I should have made myself clearer. I was referring to magic books in general, some of which are very sloppily put together. Unfortunately too many people publishing their ideas do not understand what editing means. It is not an easy job.

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 19th, 2015, 11:07 am

A note about Tim's trick, "The Tim Card Deal." The book contains Tim's routine and also an extensive discussion of how to use Tim's gaff in other routines. Anyone buying the book would be more than rewarded if they also bought two (2) of Tim's effect (you need two gaffs for some of the variations).

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby John McDonald » March 19th, 2015, 6:50 pm

I bought two and I am sure Tim is very pleased as well. Really looking forward to this book :)
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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Rigonally » March 25th, 2015, 9:26 am

The wait is almost over!

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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Jonathan Townsend » March 25th, 2015, 9:31 am

Congrats on getting this project out of the notebooks and into print.

Is there a limited edition set of ten copies of the book? That way you can offer a free selection of books and yet when they read the ISBN numbers of the books... :mrgreen:
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Re: Inventing The Ten Card Poker Deal

Postby Bob Farmer » March 26th, 2015, 8:33 am

Jonathan:

All books are one edition and of the same quality: high class.

All ISBN numbers are the same.


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