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Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 11:25 am
by Richard Kaufman
I think that Sanders' writings in his many diaries will need to be transcribed and used in the Stylometric comparison, and I look forward to that.

Good luck Bill!

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 11:33 am
by BrianB2
FYI...Mr. Erdnase is the VIP this week in a certain green site. He is available for questions until the 31st.

Brian

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 12:02 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Since Mr.E is long dead, why is anyone interested in someone pretending to be him?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 12:38 pm
by David Byron
Sawyer mentions "promontory" as a sense of "Erdnase" that might be intelligible to a native speaker of German. It appears from 19th-century philological materials available in Google Books that this definition (in the sense of a peninsula) derives from a literal translation from Ainu.

I believe this has been mentioned previously in this thread.

What Sawyer doesn't emphasize is the much more natural sense of "Erdnase" that would jump perhaps much more quickly to the mind of a native speaker: Erdnase == swine.

A pig explores nose to the ground in search of truffles. That is the obvious and immediate connotation of the neologism "Erdnase".

In considering the question of whether "Erdnase" as "earth-nose" is the sort of nom-de-plume an anagrammatically inclined mining engineer might adopt, I reckon it would make sense to go by way of the pig image: would a mining engineer liken what a miner does (uncover treasure beneath the earth) to what a pig does (uncover truffles beneath the earth).

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 12:39 pm
by Roger M.
Richard Kaufman wrote:Since Mr.E is long dead, why is anyone interested in someone pretending to be him?

Really, this is as lame as it gets.

Trying to cash in on the very recent swelling of interest in Erdnase by having "who" pretend to be Erdnase?

What on earth could ever be posted either as a question, or as an answer that would even be of any interest whatsoever to anybody?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 12:48 pm
by Jonathan Townsend
Does he prefer red or blue backed cards? Satin or Linnen finish? Can he XCM?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 6:54 pm
by Marty Demarest
I just read a new edition of one of my favorite books!

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 7:15 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Damn tease.
And what book would that be?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 8:16 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Way cool! I'll let Marty make the announcement.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 8:33 pm
by Richard Hatch
Newly arrived at the Sanders B&B in Helena and the book is a great edition to my collection! Worth the trip and the conference doesn't even start for another 30 minutes!

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 9:26 pm
by Bill Mullins
In Salt Lake City. Slowly getting there. Can you guys just do boring stuff until I arrive?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 9:40 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Jeez, Bill you really had a crappy flight delay! I'm sure Marty will make it up to you.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 26th, 2011, 11:49 pm
by Meir Yedid
An article about the Erdnaseum titled Magicians gather in Helena.

Go to:

http://www.beartoothnbc.com/news/helena ... elena.html

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 1:56 am
by Richard Hatch

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 2:07 am
by Pete McCabe
Richard Kaufman wrote:Way cool! I'll let Marty make the announcement.


Marty...?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 3:36 am
by Bill Mullins
So I get to the Helena Airport, and Mike Vance's wife is there to make sure I can get to the Erdnaseum with a minimum of delay. What a nice gesture! I follow her to the Sanders B&B, and we walk in literally as Marty is wrapping up his presentation.

But I got some W. E. Sanders birthday cake.

And got to stand around talking with people for 3 hours, which was really the whole point, anyway.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 3:44 am
by Shawn Evans
Is the Erdnaseum going to be filmed and released on DVD for the unfortunates who could not make it?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 5:01 am
by greg manwaring
I wonder if the Professor unwittingly ever crossed paths with Sanders?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 9:58 am
by Richard Hatch
Possible breakthrough: Discovered in the 2nd story bathroom (believed to be W. E. Sanders' boyhood loo), a book with the admonition: "...artfully avoid ambiguous anagrams"!

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 10:01 am
by Richard Hatch
Possible breakthrough: Discovered in the same boyhood Sanders bathroom (by Ricky Smith), hand lotion (the author told Marshall Smith he "greased" his hands). Clearly set off in a box above the ingredients on the bottle of hand lotion, in large capital letters, are the initials "ESA". Coincidence?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 10:36 am
by Richard Kaufman
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JDRYTS/
That is a link to Marty's new edition of The Expert at the Card Table for your Kindle (also can be read on the iPad using the Kindle app, which is how I viewed it).

Beautifully done and only $2.99

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 10:53 am
by Carlo Morpurgo
Richard Hatch wrote:Possible breakthrough: Discovered in the same boyhood Sanders bathroom (by Ricky Smith), hand lotion (the author told Marshall Smith he "greased" his hands). Clearly set off in a box above the ingredients on the bottle of hand lotion, in large capital letters, are the initials "ESA". Coincidence?


can you guys take photos of these "breakthroughs" for the rest of us..?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 11:05 am
by Ryan Matney
So, how has this stuff been in that house for 100 years and nobody has moved it or tampered with it?

I'm assuming the items were found before the convention/meeting. I get a mental image of everyone breaking off into groups in the house and walking around like The Goonies looking for clues.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 1:54 pm
by Ken Becker
Intentional plants???

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 2:44 pm
by Roger M.
Ryan Matney wrote:So, how has this stuff been in that house for 100 years and nobody has moved it or tampered with it?


Convention fun and good humor?
..........wish I was there.

BTW, how are you getting the Kindle edition Richard? When I click on the Amazon link in your post it says "not available"?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 2:52 pm
by Jeff Pierce Magic
Will there be a hard edition, I don't have a Kindle?

Jeff

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 4:30 pm
by Richard Kaufman
When I click on the link, I see that it's available, and that I purchased it. Hmmmm ... go to amazon and try searching on "Erdnase Demarest" and tell me if you find it.

You don't need a Kindle. You can get a Kindle app for iPad, or a Kindle "viewer" for your PC.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 4:53 pm
by Rick Ruhl
Richard Kaufman wrote:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JDRYTS/
That is a link to Marty's new edition of The Expert at the Card Table for your Kindle (also can be read on the iPad using the Kindle app, which is how I viewed it).

Beautifully done and only $2.99


Worked for me and it's super :)

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 4:55 pm
by Roger M.
Interesting........the page shows up, but it clearly says "Not Currently Available", and where the price would normally be, it says "pricing information not available".

The above occurs when I click on your link, when I search for "Erdnase Demarest", the page doesn't come up at all.....not even the page your link takes me to.

Perhaps it's because Amazon sees my IP address as being in Canada?

Don't know, it's a mystery, and a drag......I'd like Marty's edition on my iPad :(

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 4:56 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Roger, are you outside the USA?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 4:57 pm
by Roger M.
We cross posted Richard, yes I'm in Canada.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 5:16 pm
by Richard Kaufman
It could be because you're outside the US.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 27th, 2011, 6:45 pm
by Roger M.
Yes, I think that's it.
Although I've purchased many books directly from amazon.com, I've not ever tried a Kindle download.

Marty, could you put it on amazon.ca?
.......or make it available on amazon.com to those outside of the USA?

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 28th, 2011, 12:07 am
by John Bodine
For the detail oriented, the edition of The Expert on the cover of this months Genii is the facsimile edition.

Great article, thank you Marty and Richard and all other contributors. I can't wait to see what comes next!

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 28th, 2011, 12:55 pm
by Rick Ruhl
As a side note, Sandy Marshall and I have been conversing in email. Seems Jay had in his collection 2 EATCT from 1918 and one has M.D. Smith's autograph from 1947 in it. The other doesn't.

I was autographed to Ewd. J. McLaughline.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 29th, 2011, 1:58 pm
by John Bodine
Hi Rick, those sound like great editions. M.D. Smith was at the '47 SAM convention and signed books. I have a nice 1905 with his signature but not signed to anyone specific. Not sure how many he signed there but am assuming it was a relatively small number.

Now to find a first edition with Sanders autograph.

Also, has anyone compared the writing on the copyright application to that of Sanders yet? Dick Hatch perhaps? :)

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 29th, 2011, 2:11 pm
by Rick Ruhl
It's not a first edition, it's the 1918 edition, but still, these are few and far between.

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 29th, 2011, 3:54 pm
by Richard Kaufman
More information from the publisher of the new ebook version of "The Expert at the Card Table":

Just wanted to let your readers know that the ErdEd (for short) is also available for the Nook (search for "Erdnaseum Edition"-- their links aren't very concrete), and an iBooks edition should be available soon as well.

Also--since there was some confusion about it earlier-- Amazon has notified me that Canadian customers can purchase the book from the Amazon.com site, in the Kindle store.

Links to all editions are going to be maintained on our company website:
http://charlesandwonder.com

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 29th, 2011, 4:23 pm
by Geno Munari
Hi John
I have hired a certified handwriting examiner to look at this, and awaiting a copy of the Copyright Application from the Library of Congress.
Geno

Re: ERDNASE

Posted: August 29th, 2011, 4:53 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Since no one knows who filled out the copyright application (it doesn't necessarily have to be the person who owns it), the handwriting doesn't necessarily have to match.