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by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 4:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

@jkeyes -- Have you read the entire thread? or articles by Richard Hatch ( Magic , Dec 1999) or David Alexander ( Genii Jan 2000) or Marty Demarest ( Genii Sep 2011, which includes a reprint of the David Alexander article)? Or The Man Who Was Erdnase ? The reason I ask is that you are asking questio...
by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 4:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

In Austria and Germany there a millions of engineers, who are legally entitled to carry the title 'Ing.' for Ingenieur (meaning engineer) who did not go to college or university. They go to a special high-school and after a certain number of years in their profession they are allowed to carry the e...
by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 3:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

jkeyes -- my post was specifically in response to Chris's statements that engineers were products of trade schools and apprenticeship, meant to denigrate Sanders. This was demonstrably not so. Again, if Gallaway wanted to call himself an engineer, he could do so, but if the word has a generally acce...
by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 1:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Gallaway considered himself an engineer. R.R. Donnelley, one of the largest printing companies in the US at that time, if not the largest, referred to students who went through their apprentice program as printing engineers. Where does it say that you can't call yourself an engineer unless you obta...
by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 1:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Chris -- from where do the following quotes come? I don't find them in Estimating for Printers , How to Price Job Printing Properly , or Problems in Estimating . The students of Printing Practice who intend to become estimators should realize that they are to be printing engineers and when once in p...
by Bill Mullins
April 3rd, 2018, 12:47 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

I think here in the US many engineers get their education from trade schools. No. You've criticized me more than once for talking about subjects that you think I don't know anything about. Don't get yourself caught in the same trap. In America, an "engineer" means one of two things: 1. A ...
by Bill Mullins
April 2nd, 2018, 5:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

On top of this you have no evidence that he kept up his German. He graduated from the school of mines in 1885. The German magic books we are talking about were published 1895-1901, that is a decade or more later. What evidence do you have that Sanders kept up his German? The last evidence we have o...
by Bill Mullins
April 2nd, 2018, 3:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

[Erdnase] knew how to market a book! ???? There's no evidence to support this. The marketing that we know about is minimal, and none of it seems to be from the author. To self-publish a book like Expert requires not only the means to understand the contents, but also the means to do the writing and...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 8:10 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

[Olsson] is considered a pioneer and expert of authorship attribution. This should be easy enough to verify. Of his eighteen publications, only six of them have been cited by other scholars. Compare this to the citations garnered by Patrick Juola, whose survey article was linked by Jack Shalom a fe...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 7:37 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

My bar is beyond a reasonable doubt as is necessary in criminal cases. What have criminal cases got to do with this? If you are going to draw from the law, why not "preponderance of the evidence"? Why not "clear and convincing evidence"? And there are many doubts associated with...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 6:37 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: The April Issue of Genii is Out!
Replies: 20
Views: 1729

Re: The April Issue of Genii is Out!

I'd much rather read a review from Brad, who has an informed point of view (even if it doesn't always match my own), than one of the bland "I like this" reviews that show up in The Linking Ring and elsewhere.
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 2:46 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Why is this the bar? Because the bar is to show beyond a reasonable doubt that a candidate is Erdnase. In criminal cases this is broken down into three necessary items: opportunity, motive, means, and on top one needs strong identifying evidence. Having had contact with McKinney at the right time, ...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 1:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Personal notebooks are private writings, not assumed or expected to be read by others or made public. That is why one can find often the most personal and intimate information in such notebooks. I expect Erdnase, if he had such notebooks, to write a lot about the lessons learned at the card table, ...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 1:37 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Bill: I didn't say I thought it impossible for Sanders to have been an amateur magician, only "incongruous" with his profile, which (though I didn't mention it) includes his character as a writer. I think we are fairly sure that he was not a theatrical performer, which is more to the poin...
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 12:44 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: The Trick That Cannot Be Explained - New Research
Replies: 8
Views: 907

Re: The Trick That Cannot Be Explained - New Research

I love a good Easter story.
by Bill Mullins
April 1st, 2018, 10:59 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

I guess what I meant was that Sanders, bring a mining engineer or whatever, of all people, should have been able to . . . And what evidence (I am genuinely curious) is there to suggest that Sanders might have performed magic either as a hobby (for friends, guests, etc.) or on stage? The manner in w...
by Bill Mullins
March 31st, 2018, 5:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

I haven't bothered to track down a copy of The Man Who was Erdnse since I don't believe M. F. Andrews was Erdnase either. Even though the book's basic thesis (that MF Andrews was Erdnase) is bunk (I think), it is still worth having and reading a copy, since there is so much more material about the ...
by Bill Mullins
March 31st, 2018, 5:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote:Sorensen did work for Roterberg at some point in time.


I don't recall hearing this before. What's the documentation for this?
by Bill Mullins
March 31st, 2018, 1:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Playing cards were without any doubt a part of his life. For anyone to have been Erdnase, this is a prerequisite. In case you didn't know, playing cards were back then a part of pretty much everybody's life. It was the most popular pastime. Card games and gambling took place almost everywhere where...
by Bill Mullins
March 29th, 2018, 11:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

In order to prove that he was Erdnase, one would need to find either a confession or an accusation amongst the personal papers. Otherwise, I fail to see how a persuasive case could ever be presented. Do you impose the same requirements on the other candidates? If not, why do you hold them to differ...
by Bill Mullins
March 27th, 2018, 8:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

The evidence that Sanders wrote the bios is their similarity to the other sections that Sanders is sure to have written. If this is not evidence of common authorship, how can any (presumed) similarity in the writings of Gallaway and Erdnase be taken as evidence of common authorship?
by Bill Mullins
March 22nd, 2018, 4:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Bruce Elliott died Mar 22, 1973, after being in a coma since being hit by a taxi in Greenwich village previously, on Nov. 30. @Zig Zagger - I would contend that much of the social sciences aren't particularly scientific, and most of the law certainly isn't. Dunno about philology. Your take on Olsson...
by Bill Mullins
March 22nd, 2018, 3:27 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

I don't think it is particularly "inside" information. It's been mentioned here on the forum before. The first line in his wikipedia biography makes the connection. His obituary in The Linking Ring included "He had served as editor for various magazines including Playcraft , Tempo , D...
by Bill Mullins
March 22nd, 2018, 3:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

For over thirty years, I have scrutinised thousands of novels known colloquially as "1960s Sleaze" You read stroke books? Shocking. Turns out that some now famous writers got their start in this genre. Names like Harlan Ellison, Lawrence Block, Donald Westlake, Even Hunter, and John Jakes...
by Bill Mullins
March 22nd, 2018, 11:49 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote: But you are calling linguistics a pseudo-science. I will stop arguing with you.


The hallmark of science is repeatable, testable predictions. The techniques you and Olsson have applied haven't been tested and shown to be accurate. Pseudo-science is a fair description.
by Bill Mullins
March 22nd, 2018, 2:44 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

I'd note that Sanders studied German in prep school, and as an Engineering student, almost certainly would have studied (or have been shown to be proficient in) it in college. So much of what Chris has been finding out over the last couple of weeks applies to Sanders as well as Gallaway. But Sanders...
by Bill Mullins
March 21st, 2018, 10:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote: A digital version of this book is already in preparation here at Lybrary.com. I think the correct publishing date is 1895 not 1896.


Sources vary. The University of Warsaw Library says 1871; the copy being indexed by Behr is 1895; Zauberpedia says 1896. I'd bet you and Denis are correct.
by Bill Mullins
March 21st, 2018, 4:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Chris's new newsletter deals with more antecedents of effects in Erdnase that appear in the German literature; specifically, "The Three Aces" and "The Card and Handkerchief". "The Three Aces" is the trick where two aces are used to mask the central heart pip in the Ace...
by Bill Mullins
March 21st, 2018, 12:21 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: The April Issue of Genii is Out!
Replies: 20
Views: 1729

Re: The April Issue of Genii is Out!

Another thing --
I thought the photos in "Chamber of Secrets" were especially well done. The photographer, Robert Sebree, was a name I did not recognize. His website shows some really nice pictures. And it turns out this is not his first work with a magic theme.
by Bill Mullins
March 20th, 2018, 11:48 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: The April Issue of Genii is Out!
Replies: 20
Views: 1729

Re: The April Issue of Genii is Out!

This installment of "Hidden Treasures" is hilarious. I think I have had some of the same conversations that Bob describes, certainly with the same airline, maybe with the same attendants and clerks. Do you suppose that maybe Bob Read hasn't really passed on, but is stuck at Atlanta airport...
by Bill Mullins
March 20th, 2018, 10:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

Does anyone who posts here have an example of Gallaway' s writing and would be willing to post a few sentences or a paragraph? These are Chicago composite hour costs and are to be used by the students of this school for exercise purposes only. In actual estimating, use the hour costs which prevail ...
by Bill Mullins
March 19th, 2018, 2:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Pick off Pip (Dai Vernon’s Version)
Replies: 26
Views: 1813

Re: Pick off Pip (Dai Vernon’s Version)

Kent Blackmore wrote:I've put up a short clip of the trick performed by the Professor, from a non-commercial video.
https://youtu.be/19D4Np3Cn4k



What is the source of that video? And does it contain him demonstrating/teaching the Berg Knot?
by Bill Mullins
March 19th, 2018, 2:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

nor did [Sanders] write in different 'voices' himself. This is ridiculous statement. Voice 1, from the 25th Anniversary book of the 1885 Class of Mines, of Columbia University. "Once upon a time, as all good fairy tales begin, 94 callow, bashful and hopeful youths met together by reason of an ...
by Bill Mullins
March 19th, 2018, 12:27 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

But Sanders supporters usually point to that one trick and claim that this is proof that he is Erdnase. I can't recall anyone other than yourself saying that the limited, circumstantial evidence we have for any of the main candidates "proves" anything. David Alexander, in his seminal arti...
by Bill Mullins
March 18th, 2018, 2:51 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

While I don't particularly support Benedict as a candidate, seeing criticism of him because he was known for stage magic, from an advocate of someone who is not known to have done any magic, is funny.
by Bill Mullins
March 16th, 2018, 9:09 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

The strongest argument against the possibility that all of these things traveled from Erdnase to Germany is that we would then expect Erdnase taking some credit for it, which he didn't. He wasn't shy taking credit for other things. We would only expect him to take credit if he did invent them. Not ...
by Bill Mullins
March 16th, 2018, 4:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

The Wilson book surfaced only recently suggesting that it wasn't a particularly widely distributed title. I think it therefore likely that Erdnase and most everybody else was not familiar with it and that Erdnase independently invented (re-invented) similar moves. I'd bet it was more widely distrib...
by Bill Mullins
March 16th, 2018, 12:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

While I am not categorically denying that possibility, the facts speak against it. Erdnase claims ownership for several things in his book. To the best of our knowledge he was always correct when he claimed he was the originator. Not so. He claimed both the Longitudinal Shift ("for which we ha...
by Bill Mullins
March 15th, 2018, 1:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6838
Views: 2003646

Re: ERDNASE

It's recently been reported that comic book writer Michael Fleisher died last month. If you were reading comics in the 1970s and 1980s, his work on DC's The Spectre and Jonah Hex may have been memorable for you. Why post this fact here? Because in 1985, in Jonah Hex #85, Fleisher included a characte...

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