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by Tom Sawyer
September 21st, 2015, 5:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, At the moment, on my S.W. Erdnase blog I am running a little series of posts on this whole “Erdnase hotel” business. However, there a couple of things I wanted to mention here at this time. I think it has been mentioned a number of times on this thread that there were many hotels in the area...
by Tom Sawyer
September 20th, 2015, 4:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I just re-looked at the email from Hurt McDermott in which he mentioned the James Manning establishment. It appears that Hurt was indicating that the southeast corner of Congress and State was at that time also occupied by a couple of other entities, but I'm not getting into that at the moment, in p...
by Tom Sawyer
September 19th, 2015, 4:20 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, This post was inspired by Peter Zenner's most recent post. Back in 2012, Hurt McDermott and I corresponded a little bit about the geographical area of the State Hotel (which in the Erdnase era had a different name). Hurt was kind enough to share a little bit of his additional research with m...
by Tom Sawyer
September 18th, 2015, 8:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, Based on what Smith said, hotels near the intersection of Congress and State are going to lead the pack for being the Erdnase-Smith Hotel, and that pretty much makes Bartl's Hotel (later the State Hotel) a front runner. This was at the corner of Harrison and State. (Bill Mullins figured out ...
by Tom Sawyer
September 17th, 2015, 10:14 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Dick, thanks for all those details about the "east" as Smith's stated point of origin for Erdnase.

--Tom
by Tom Sawyer
September 17th, 2015, 7:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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A few of you may claim that you are S.W. Erdnase, or that your spouse is. But some of you will remember that I actually proved that my daughter was Erdnase. I was able to do this by marshaling a lot of clear facts that went far beyond any possibility of coincidence. Of course, this was a few years a...
by Tom Sawyer
September 14th, 2015, 7:32 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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That is quite interesting. It is very similar, but I am not sure what one does with that information. I assume that is from The Publishers’ Weekly for May 31, 1902. The very next advertisement is also quite similar, but it is from the Riggs Publishing Company . For that matter, the advertisement tha...
by Tom Sawyer
September 14th, 2015, 5:00 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I hear you.
by Tom Sawyer
September 14th, 2015, 2:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Regarding Harte, on September 2, 2015, Dick Hatch posted some new information about the Maly-Dunham-Harte situation, and I think the precise words of Maly and Dunham tend to show how unclear the situation really is. From what I have been able to prise out of the rather sparse factual background I am...
by Tom Sawyer
September 11th, 2015, 7:25 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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As Jon Townsend and Dick Hatch sort of imply, coming up with actual first-person statements is a little difficult. Even so, I think that the name of James Harte could probably be added to the list.
by Tom Sawyer
September 11th, 2015, 5:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Dick, that extract is highly interesting.

It seems to me that this raises the issue of whether the father knew that the man was the author, or whether, like Pratt, he figured it out for himself based on other information. If the latter, then "ouch."

--Tom
by Tom Sawyer
September 11th, 2015, 2:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, Here are comments on a few recent posts: degrisy: As far as I know, no one has published a widely accepted explanation of why some of the figures have a copyright notice and some do not. Those copyright notices have been discussed somewhat on this thread. Probably the most recent discussion ...
by Tom Sawyer
September 10th, 2015, 1:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Whenever a "candidate" is named Andrews, with the first name James, you can get the reversal (and arrive at "S.W. Erdnase") by ignoring any middle name and dropping the JAM and THEN doing the reversal. True, you have letters left over, but it works okay. Hurt McDermott notes that...
by Tom Sawyer
September 10th, 2015, 8:09 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Personally, I missed any reference to owning a place in Chicago. Wikipedia shows the French Lick location to be in southern Indiana. I don't think the "expert card dealer" idea has been demonstrated convincingly. I don't think the name has been shown to be James M. Andrews. I get the vibe ...
by Tom Sawyer
September 8th, 2015, 1:34 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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This website has a "Search for Documents" link that allows one to locate "Growing Avocados from Slips," by S.W. Jamieson: Avocado Source website.

This item on irrigation of avocado trees was apparently co-written by S.W. Jamieson: Irrigation.

--Tom Sawyer
by Tom Sawyer
September 6th, 2015, 3:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi Jon, I have not read that Borges story ("Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote "), but I have read a little bit about it. I suppose at the very least your comment may raise questions such as the following: 1. Is there any utility to the inquiry into the S.W. Erdnase identity question? 2....
by Tom Sawyer
September 5th, 2015, 2:03 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I wonder whether this Labor Day weekend will be quiet on this thread. I suspect so. Personally, tomorrow I hope to watch as much as I can of UCLA playing Virginia, and also Berkeley playing Grambling, even though I think the two games will overlap. Anyway, I bethought myself that I would check and s...
by Tom Sawyer
September 3rd, 2015, 7:28 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, Chris said that all of the Andrews evidence is “tightly connected.” Bill said that this “is simply not true.” Both of these men elaborated on their positions, so it seems pretty clear what each of them means, at least if you are sort of familiar with the basic facts. In this post I’ll talk a...
by Tom Sawyer
September 2nd, 2015, 8:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Dick, I can't remember seeing those Dunham and Maly quotations before. That is very interesting. The Man Who Was Erdnase seems to me to be extremely vague about both Dunham and Maly, regarding their support for the asserted Harto connection with Erdnase (or Andrews). I don't think I have ever seen a...
by Tom Sawyer
September 2nd, 2015, 3:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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For some inexplicable reason, about a day has gone by with no new posts on this thread. I thought I might address one of the most fundamental questions in Erdnase-dom, namely whether Marshall D. Smith’s recollections regarding the name "Andrews" are reliable. (Probably this immediately wil...
by Tom Sawyer
September 1st, 2015, 12:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bridget McKinney is shown at the 520 McLean address, in the bankruptcy papers.
by Tom Sawyer
August 31st, 2015, 3:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, Regarding Jonathan Townsend’s most recent post on this thread, the questions he states really get to the crux of the whole S.W. Erdnase question. And unfortunately, a lot of posts seem to be premised on an unspoken premise that is totally invalid, namely, that almost all of us approach evide...
by Tom Sawyer
August 31st, 2015, 7:04 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I think the Edward Gallaway case is going to be developed by Chris (and probably others) in far more detail as time goes on. At the moment, I have a difficult time in determining how strong or weak the case is as it now stands. The mere existence of other candidates is one of the things that tends t...
by Tom Sawyer
August 29th, 2015, 10:03 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Concerning the asserted confiscation of plates, this was discussed at some length on this thread back in 2011.
by Tom Sawyer
August 29th, 2015, 5:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I think I understand fairly well where some of the people who are not enthused about Edward Gallaway are coming from. I don't know of anything hard that one can point to in defense of the Gallaway case. But I think that (in large part) the way a person views the case comes down to the question of wh...
by Tom Sawyer
August 25th, 2015, 3:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I am not certain what assumptions are being made regarding the date that Emory Cobb Andrews began working for Philip Ruxton. It seems, however, that the assumption is that he worked there as early as 1901 or 1902. Or maybe someone has presented evidence for a definite date, and I have missed it or f...
by Tom Sawyer
August 22nd, 2015, 7:46 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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The viability of a December 1901 date pretty much depends upon whether or not the date allowed Smith enough time to do the drawings. A great many ins and outs of this have been discussed on this thread.
by Tom Sawyer
August 22nd, 2015, 5:13 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Concerning the book inscribed by E.C. Andrews, I perceive that the gentleman to whom the book is inscribed (Henry Turner Bailey) is mentioned by Andrews in his preface. I like those kinds of connections very much. Bailey was quite a prominent man, but I suppose details on that are a little outside t...
by Tom Sawyer
August 21st, 2015, 4:40 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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To me, one complicating factor is that The Man Who Was Erdnase (on pages 57 and 390) made a semi-big deal about Edward Galloway being interested in gambling and having multiple gambling books in his collection. This is especially so in the third full paragraph of page 57. It is not especially solid ...
by Tom Sawyer
August 20th, 2015, 4:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Jonathan, true about intuition, but I think that for some people that intuition as to Erdnase is possibly something more -- it's potentially based on a deep familiarity with the Erdnase text and also with texts being compared to it. But I am not sure that anyone has that kind of familiarity with the...
by Tom Sawyer
August 20th, 2015, 6:17 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I believe that Bill Mullins addressed that general topic in some depth in this post: Link.
by Tom Sawyer
August 18th, 2015, 11:02 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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If Sprong met with Drake during or before 1912, then it would have been Frederick J. Drake (the father) with whom he met.
by Tom Sawyer
August 18th, 2015, 6:47 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Regardless of what one believes on the Smith-Sprong-Drake-Rullman aspects of the case, at least one thing seems pretty clear. Sprong's investigation is key, but we don't know the source of Drake's information. Edward Fink provided some ages of Drake family members. Based on that, the eldest child wa...
by Tom Sawyer
August 16th, 2015, 11:11 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Regarding Marshall D. Smith, I think it is pretty frequent practice for people to disregard certain things he said, and to rely on other things he said. I would hesitate to say that "everyone" does this, but I believe that many do. Whaley, Busby, and Gardner largely discounted the height b...
by Tom Sawyer
August 15th, 2015, 1:44 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Carlo, this is not designed to answer the questions you posed in your most recent post. However, first, thanks for posting those various phrase-lists. Second, some people may not realize that The Art of Magic was one of the first magic books to make reference to The Expert at the Card Table . It doe...
by Tom Sawyer
August 13th, 2015, 10:09 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I think S.W. Erdnase very likely owned multiple copies of the book, initially. Ten years later, though, I would think the chances would be more like 50-50, or even less. Erdnase strikes me as having been mobile. People in general, and perhaps mobile people especially, have a lot of opportunities for...
by Tom Sawyer
August 9th, 2015, 3:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Hi All, A fair amount of discussion in this thread has related to the reversal of names. Regarding S.W. Erdnase, one of the concepts is that, at least in magic, the reversal of names is not infrequent. However, I am not certain of the utility of such discussions, since (from what I have seen) they t...
by Tom Sawyer
August 8th, 2015, 5:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Correction: Back on the dimensions of the McKinney building at 73-75 Plymouth Place, The Inland Printer , June 1899, actually has the building at 50 feet by 100 feet. That was when the street was called Third Avenue. I had the length (depth) wrong. I probably got the 80 feet from a post a long time ...
by Tom Sawyer
August 7th, 2015, 11:02 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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In general (not addressing Gallaway), I am one of those who does not see a lot of intrinsic difficulties in "Erdnase" as a nickname. Whether the nickname theory is as valid as an anagram or quasi-anagram theory, I cannot say for certain. I'm not sure that a good decision can be made about ...
by Tom Sawyer
August 7th, 2015, 6:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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An Illinois report on taxation (from the mid-1890s) says 50 by 100 for the address, and I think that is probably correct for 1902.

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