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by Zenner
July 10th, 2015, 8:14 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but Harry's nephew, Frank R. Thompson (son of Frank L. Thompson) was thought by Chicago police to have supplied the machine guns used in the St Valentine's Day massacre. Go back to your regularly scheduled Erdnasia. Dear Bill, You are very good at using Go...
by Zenner
July 10th, 2015, 6:04 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

Absent the confirmation of Thompson's connection to McKinney, I can think of a half dozen Chicago area magicians who tick of as many boxes: August Roterberg, E. S. Burns, Ed Vernelo, H. J. Burlingame, William J. Hilliar... All were in Chicago at the time, all had self-publishing experience, all cou...
by Zenner
July 9th, 2015, 8:11 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

I've researched all of them to some degree and don't think any of them were Erdnase, but let's take just one to compare him with Thompson: Bill Hilliar had extensive experience writing and editing magic, was considered an expert with cards (on one occasion filling in for Thurston on short notice wi...
by Zenner
July 9th, 2015, 6:58 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

It is clear from his book that the author knew quite a bit about card magic, including moves from very recently published books marketed to the magic fraternity. Harry S. Thompson had one of the four biggest magic libraries in America, according to Doc. Wilson. I think that the others were Houdini,...
by Zenner
July 8th, 2015, 7:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

Without knowing more than what Peter has just shared with us today, Thompson is, to me, a surprising candidate, as would be anyone from the magic community of the time. Are you saying that "Erdnase" knew nothing about magic? There is absolutely no reason why he shouldn't be a member of th...
by Zenner
July 7th, 2015, 7:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

Peter, do we know what happened to his extensive library of magic? It likely had a first edition copy of Erdnase and it would be great to examine that copy to see if there were any inscriptions, annotations, or other interesting features. I asked his grand-daughter about his library. She has some b...
by Zenner
July 7th, 2015, 10:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

Certainly an interesting candidate! If his brother was a printer, why work with McKinney? To keep the family in the dark about it? The same argument was made by Gardner about MFA's family not knowing he was the author. Why keep it secret from his brother magicians? Do we have other samples of his w...
by Zenner
July 7th, 2015, 10:17 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

Re: ERDNASE

I guess I'll ask the obvious follow-up questions: Why Harry, and not one of the other candidates? Is there a smoking gun? Everything we know from the book and from Marshall D. Smith's description fits perfectly with Harry S. Thompson. This cannot be said of any of the other candidates. I haven't fo...
by Zenner
July 7th, 2015, 5:47 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

Re: ERDNASE

ERDNASE FOUND Pull up a chair and grab a coffee. The man who used the nom-de-plume "S.W. Erdnase" was none other than Chicago magician, Harry Stuart Thompson. Harry was born on February 28, 1858, which means that he was 44 on February 28, 1902, just after the copyright application was made...
by Zenner
June 8th, 2015, 6:52 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

Re: ERDNASE

I think that I have read everything that Richard Hatch has written about his candidate but I don't recall anybody commenting on the anomalies in that 1900 Census. Being criticised by Messrs Mullins and "M" will not affect my belief that something was fishy. I merely brought it to your atte...
by Zenner
June 7th, 2015, 9:31 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

Re: ERDNASE

It doesn't say that Dorothea was their mother, it says that two children lived in the household. At the top of the column it says "Mother of how many children" and the answer is "2". There is no attempt to indicate that she was their step-mother. While the 1900 census says that ...
by Zenner
June 7th, 2015, 7:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

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Ah but, Bill. Not only does it say that they have been married for 17 years, it says that Dorothea is the mother of two children and that those two children are still alive. They are then listed as Ethel, age 10 (born in March, 1890) and William E., age 6 (born in July, 1893). And their parents were...
by Zenner
June 7th, 2015, 3:22 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

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Yes Tom, but in the 1900 Census they both said that they had been married for 17 years. That puts the year back to 1883, the year when Andrews married "Elizabeth Crosby". The whole point of my posting was that it seems that he married the same girl twice - the first time was illegal and th...
by Zenner
June 7th, 2015, 10:27 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

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June 9, 1900. Census time. Edwin S. Andrews (age 41); Dorothea Andrews (age 33); Ethel Andrews (age 10); and William E. Andrews (age 6) are all lodgers at 1750 Stout Street, Denver, Colorado. Edwin is a travelling agent for the RR. He was born in Minnesota and his parents were born in Pennsylvania. ...
by Zenner
May 26th, 2013, 7:16 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2332335

Re: ERDNASE

I know where his body lies, Richard, but I am not prepared to show my hand just yet. The research is done, now all I have to do is write the book ;) It took me four years to find the name of the man who wrote the Shakespeare works. It only took me two days to find a candidate for Erdnase. A two week...

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