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by jkeyes1000
October 19th, 2018, 7:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

Brad--I wonder why you are on a mission to alert new members of this forum to my wretched logic. Do you fear that they might be less perceptive than you? That they might not be able to discover that on their own? Sounds like your greatest worry is that others are not likely to agree with your opinio...
by jkeyes1000
October 18th, 2018, 6:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

one need only read any of your previous posts or watch that video of you turning water into wine to see all the examples of your lack of understanding one might need. and my experience is more valuable than yours because i actually have some. Not as much as some, but a LOT more than you. and that’s...
by jkeyes1000
October 18th, 2018, 5:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

let me say that I have more than a little experience at selling collectible books (on eBay and elsewhere). and you have proven that your ‘experience’ seldom translates into understanding. And you have proved nothing, Brad. You speak in generalisms. Give us some examples of this "lack of unders...
by jkeyes1000
October 17th, 2018, 1:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

This subject could get more complex than anyone really wants, but here's my thinking. The concept of "demand" is not as clearly defined as that of "supply" or "condition". For there are many degrees or levels of intensity when it comes to "collectibility". We ...
by jkeyes1000
October 17th, 2018, 10:30 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

The amount something sells for on eBay contributes nothing to the determination of value or potential sales price. The purchaser could very easily be the seller using their sock puppet account , indeed many sellers attempt to boost the perceived value of an eBay item by doing just this. Jason bases...
by jkeyes1000
October 17th, 2018, 7:55 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

FYI Jason England https://www.ebay.com/itm/312223045807 $465.00 dollars for EATCT Fireside edition SOLD I believe your valuations of the early books is off abit. LOL Magicians have no idea of value. no - the person who paid that much doesn’t. Brad--If you wish to bring the price of this book down t...
by jkeyes1000
September 30th, 2018, 11:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

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Since I posted the earlier picture, Scott has asked for some assistance with posting some more detailed views. Here they are. (SNIP) Scott has a very vivid imagination :) Houdini was Erdnase? Are we expected to believe that it was Houdini who demonstrated the tricks for Smith and then posed for the...
by jkeyes1000
September 15th, 2018, 9:10 am
Forum: General
Topic: A Question About the TV Series, The Avengers
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Views: 656

Re: question about a old tv serie, the avengers

And don't forget Honor Blackman.

https://youtu.be/Vvjjm8hMdKI
by jkeyes1000
July 27th, 2018, 4:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Oh, I am sure it was just a bit of a joke. It is exactly the sort of thing that I would have said. However, at this stage I do not wish to confirm or deny that I wrote Expert at the Card Table. The reason why we can never presume what Erdnase meant by "need the money" is that EVEN IF WE C...
by jkeyes1000
July 27th, 2018, 1:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

When you need money, usually that means you need it now--not months from now. There are faster ways to generate needed cash than publishing a book. The author wrote it to show off his skills acquired in the "cold school of experience." As for the author's frugality, the fact that he worke...
by jkeyes1000
May 5th, 2018, 12:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I see no fault in Chris's method of Facial Recognition (although I do concur with Bill when he suggests that the hair on the head ought not to be aligned with the bald pate of another subject). The authors of the article that Chris refers to would be amongst the first to say that their techniques mu...
by jkeyes1000
May 5th, 2018, 11:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Since Bill's pseudo-science knowledge is so dishonest I suggest for anybody who is genuinely interested in this subject to read for example this article http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~vmp93/Conference_pub/WACV2016_CFP.pdf What you will learn is that recognizing profile images from frontal images is a ...
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 1:33 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Apparently, Brad thanks that I am allied with Chris, and he is trying to "divide and conquer" the anti-Sanders forces.

That's not the way to win, Brad. You need to be smarter than the opposition, not more devious.

Good luck with that.
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 8:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Brad: I did not say that everyone wanted to be a magician in the early 1900s. I simply pointed out that it was amongst the most common aspirations for a young boy. Others being soldiers, sailors, firemen, train conductors, "big game" hunters, etc.
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 5:23 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Joe Crist writes "perception distortion". Don't know if that is what you meant. If you did, then going from "perception distortion" to "perspective shifts" is quite an accomplishment, you knew exactly what i meant. but you keep focusing on the fly [censored] since you ...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 6:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Now, here is the trouble with Bill's logic: he needs to question the credibility of other statements by Erdnase in order to "pound the square peg into a round hole". You can consider the "no confidences" statement relative to a single other statement ("sum of our present kn...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 4:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

The matter of "reading comprehension" has been touched upon (often with a rude finger) a number of times in this discourse; yet never helpfully addressed. I would like to give a brief lesson for the benefit of those in need of remedial advice. Bill has told me that he doesn't think the fol...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 1:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Bill, Erdnase is not stating that there are "confidences" to betray. He is stating that there are not. If he is not aware of the other methods, the "confidences", then it makes no sense to refer to them. Likewise, where he previously says "as certain artifices are first dis...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 11:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Bill Mullins wrote: "And I interpret "we betray no confidences" to mean that some have confided certain secrets to him that he does not disclose. If he did not know them, they wouldn't be confidences." Bill, Erdnase is not stating that there are "confidences" to betray....
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 8:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Erdnase doesn't explicitly say that he is "keeping some secrets which are not his to disclose". Here is the passage: "We do not claim to know it all. Many professionals have attained their success by improving old methods, or inventing new ones; and as certain artifices are first dis...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 6:42 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

In the opening pages of EATCT, we find this interesting remark--"...the sum total of our present knowledge is proffered in this volume...". . . . If we take the above quote literally, it can only mean that the author had far more experience in legerdemain than in advantage playing. Just t...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 3:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

did keyes just claim there was no content regarding. comportment at the card table? hey keyes - try reading the book before commenting on it. there is a reason magicians started pursuing gamblers as models to emulate - they understand things like consistency of action and character far greater than...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 1:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

......Given the relative dearth of advice on how to comport oneself during a card game in the gambling section (nothing on wagering, or bluffing, or "reading" one's fellows' expressions)...... In EATCT, Erdnase makes note of Whist, Hearts, Cribbage, Euchre, Coon Can, Penuckle, All Fours, ...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 11:35 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Describing the method, the technique, the "move" is only a matter of accurately explaining how to manipulate the deck. I'm not saying that some folks might find that a challenge. But it is not the masterful process of making things out of whole cloth. Moving the goal posts here. We're not...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 9:12 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Pointless and utterly uninformed drivel? Then why has nobody taken up my challenge, to select a passage from the gambling section of EATCT that we can all agree took more time and more effort to write than a passage from the magic section? That, I firmly believe, is quite pointed and well informed....
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I said above that, regardless of the experimentation and practice that preceded the writing of the gambling portion of EATCT, the actual setting down of the words was as simple as the chord changes in an instruction book on "How To Play The Guitar". It is only a matter of describing hand ...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
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from a writer's point of view, that the magic routines required more time and effort to compose, simply because they were fancier. This is nonsense. It's very difficult to write precise technical instructions involving sleight of hand well. Among modern writers, Richard does it well, Stephen Minch ...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Here is the problem, Bob--that, regardless of how "silly" you think the patter is, and despite how long it took Erdnase to develop his gambling sleights, the writing in the legerdemain section was more elaborate. It is not mere opinion, it is the voice of experience, from a writer's point...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 10:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re: ERDNASE

It is not mere opinion, it is the voice of experience, from a writer's point of view, that the magic routines required more time and effort to compose, simply because they were fancier. ha. again the ignorance of the novice reveals itself. anyone can throw filigree and ornamentation on a basic stru...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 8:36 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

That is your interpretation, Bob. But I have serious doubts about it. First--there is the irony of a gambler supposedly performing (whether professionally or socially) not just magic tricks, but card tricks, using the very same skills that a cheater would surely hide. Second--the fact that the lege...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 1:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I must be missing something somewhere. Erdnase wrote an encyclopedia of card sleights, etc., added some card tricks, and demonstrated the contents to Marshall D. Smith so that he could illustrate the book. Where is the evidence that Sanders was capable of all that? What's the problem? The purchase ...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 10:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I think I could make a good case for Gallaway, based on the anagram idea. Now, "S.W. Erdnase" works out to be "Reads news"--yes? And Gallaway had been a proof reader. Not only that, but according to Chris, he had some sort of connection with a German-language newspaper. Well? Yo...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 7:41 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I think I could make a good case for Gallaway, based on the anagram idea. Now, "S.W. Erdnase" works out to be "Reads news"--yes? And Gallaway had been a proof reader. Not only that, but according to Chris, he had some sort of connection with a German-language newspaper. Well? You...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 5:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

What Erdnase provided us in the first half of the EATCT is the work of an inveterate gambler and card cheat, who then spent years (perhaps a decade) developing his personal knowledge of cheating at a gaming table into new and effective methods to manipulate cards to an advantage . . . Note also tha...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 11:44 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

Not sure where your reading comprehension is, but Sanders has more in his corner than any other candidate. Beyond buying cards and writing about a card effect, there is more. These are facts, not diagrams, conjectures. If you are going to discount cards and effects as not being worth mention, what ...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 10:58 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

After reading Bob's updated analyses of the writing similarities between Sanders and Erdnase, I can't possibly accept that he was not the author of The Expert. There is such a vast array of similarities in the writing that to adamantly believe Sanders is not a viable candidate is to be in denial. W...
by jkeyes1000
April 29th, 2018, 9:02 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I would point out that most of the places in which you find these trade customs, they are in fact attributed to the various trade organizations that standardized them. So your statement "meant to be copied without attribution " is wrong. But again, as I've said before, and as you continua...
by jkeyes1000
April 28th, 2018, 10:26 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

Re: ERDNASE

I recently ran across something pretty remarkable that I haven't seen mentioned before. It's from an 1996 letter, among several available online that Bill Mullins pointed me at. Sanders, at the time, was at the Montana Historical Society. We already know that Sanders’ early diaries and notebooks co...
by jkeyes1000
April 27th, 2018, 9:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
Views: 2037854

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I don't blame Chris for writing things like, "...and yes, Gallaway also wrote EATCT". Because I know that this is his opinion, his conclusion. Within the context of his eBook (or even this thread), it is clear that he is presenting a theory. He is not claiming to have positively proved it....
by jkeyes1000
April 25th, 2018, 12:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6994
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Re: ERDNASE

Bob, I never once argued that Sanders couldn't be Erdnase. I am simply saying that it stands to reason, that Sanders was wealthier, and therefore less in need of money than Galloway.! That's not an accurate account of what happened. You predicated various arguments on Sanders having plenty of money...

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