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by jkeyes1000
May 5th, 2018, 12:45 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I see no fault in Chris's method of Facial Recognition (although I do concur with Bill when he suggests that the hair on the head ought not to be aligned with the bald pate of another subject). The authors of the article that Chris refers to would be amongst the first to say that their techniques mu...
by jkeyes1000
May 5th, 2018, 11:00 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Since Bill's pseudo-science knowledge is so dishonest I suggest for anybody who is genuinely interested in this subject to read for example this article http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~vmp93/Conference_pub/WACV2016_CFP.pdf What you will learn is that recognizing profile images from frontal images is a ...
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 1:33 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Apparently, Brad thanks that I am allied with Chris, and he is trying to "divide and conquer" the anti-Sanders forces.

That's not the way to win, Brad. You need to be smarter than the opposition, not more devious.

Good luck with that.
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 8:33 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Brad: I did not say that everyone wanted to be a magician in the early 1900s. I simply pointed out that it was amongst the most common aspirations for a young boy. Others being soldiers, sailors, firemen, train conductors, "big game" hunters, etc.
by jkeyes1000
May 4th, 2018, 5:23 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Joe Crist writes "perception distortion". Don't know if that is what you meant. If you did, then going from "perception distortion" to "perspective shifts" is quite an accomplishment, you knew exactly what i meant. but you keep focusing on the fly [censored] since you ...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 6:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Now, here is the trouble with Bill's logic: he needs to question the credibility of other statements by Erdnase in order to "pound the square peg into a round hole". You can consider the "no confidences" statement relative to a single other statement ("sum of our present kn...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 4:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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The matter of "reading comprehension" has been touched upon (often with a rude finger) a number of times in this discourse; yet never helpfully addressed. I would like to give a brief lesson for the benefit of those in need of remedial advice. Bill has told me that he doesn't think the fol...
by jkeyes1000
May 3rd, 2018, 1:06 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Bill, Erdnase is not stating that there are "confidences" to betray. He is stating that there are not. If he is not aware of the other methods, the "confidences", then it makes no sense to refer to them. Likewise, where he previously says "as certain artifices are first dis...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 11:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bill Mullins wrote: "And I interpret "we betray no confidences" to mean that some have confided certain secrets to him that he does not disclose. If he did not know them, they wouldn't be confidences." Bill, Erdnase is not stating that there are "confidences" to betray....
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 8:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Erdnase doesn't explicitly say that he is "keeping some secrets which are not his to disclose". Here is the passage: "We do not claim to know it all. Many professionals have attained their success by improving old methods, or inventing new ones; and as certain artifices are first dis...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 6:42 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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In the opening pages of EATCT, we find this interesting remark--"...the sum total of our present knowledge is proffered in this volume...". . . . If we take the above quote literally, it can only mean that the author had far more experience in legerdemain than in advantage playing. Just t...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 3:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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did keyes just claim there was no content regarding. comportment at the card table? hey keyes - try reading the book before commenting on it. there is a reason magicians started pursuing gamblers as models to emulate - they understand things like consistency of action and character far greater than...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 1:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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......Given the relative dearth of advice on how to comport oneself during a card game in the gambling section (nothing on wagering, or bluffing, or "reading" one's fellows' expressions)...... In EATCT, Erdnase makes note of Whist, Hearts, Cribbage, Euchre, Coon Can, Penuckle, All Fours, ...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 11:35 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Describing the method, the technique, the "move" is only a matter of accurately explaining how to manipulate the deck. I'm not saying that some folks might find that a challenge. But it is not the masterful process of making things out of whole cloth. Moving the goal posts here. We're not...
by jkeyes1000
May 2nd, 2018, 9:12 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Pointless and utterly uninformed drivel? Then why has nobody taken up my challenge, to select a passage from the gambling section of EATCT that we can all agree took more time and more effort to write than a passage from the magic section? That, I firmly believe, is quite pointed and well informed....
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:28 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I said above that, regardless of the experimentation and practice that preceded the writing of the gambling portion of EATCT, the actual setting down of the words was as simple as the chord changes in an instruction book on "How To Play The Guitar". It is only a matter of describing hand ...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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from a writer's point of view, that the magic routines required more time and effort to compose, simply because they were fancier. This is nonsense. It's very difficult to write precise technical instructions involving sleight of hand well. Among modern writers, Richard does it well, Stephen Minch ...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 11:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Here is the problem, Bob--that, regardless of how "silly" you think the patter is, and despite how long it took Erdnase to develop his gambling sleights, the writing in the legerdemain section was more elaborate. It is not mere opinion, it is the voice of experience, from a writer's point...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 10:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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It is not mere opinion, it is the voice of experience, from a writer's point of view, that the magic routines required more time and effort to compose, simply because they were fancier. ha. again the ignorance of the novice reveals itself. anyone can throw filigree and ornamentation on a basic stru...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 8:36 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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That is your interpretation, Bob. But I have serious doubts about it. First--there is the irony of a gambler supposedly performing (whether professionally or socially) not just magic tricks, but card tricks, using the very same skills that a cheater would surely hide. Second--the fact that the lege...
by jkeyes1000
May 1st, 2018, 1:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I must be missing something somewhere. Erdnase wrote an encyclopedia of card sleights, etc., added some card tricks, and demonstrated the contents to Marshall D. Smith so that he could illustrate the book. Where is the evidence that Sanders was capable of all that? What's the problem? The purchase ...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 10:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I think I could make a good case for Gallaway, based on the anagram idea. Now, "S.W. Erdnase" works out to be "Reads news"--yes? And Gallaway had been a proof reader. Not only that, but according to Chris, he had some sort of connection with a German-language newspaper. Well? Yo...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 7:41 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I think I could make a good case for Gallaway, based on the anagram idea. Now, "S.W. Erdnase" works out to be "Reads news"--yes? And Gallaway had been a proof reader. Not only that, but according to Chris, he had some sort of connection with a German-language newspaper. Well? You...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 5:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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What Erdnase provided us in the first half of the EATCT is the work of an inveterate gambler and card cheat, who then spent years (perhaps a decade) developing his personal knowledge of cheating at a gaming table into new and effective methods to manipulate cards to an advantage . . . Note also tha...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 11:44 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Not sure where your reading comprehension is, but Sanders has more in his corner than any other candidate. Beyond buying cards and writing about a card effect, there is more. These are facts, not diagrams, conjectures. If you are going to discount cards and effects as not being worth mention, what ...
by jkeyes1000
April 30th, 2018, 10:58 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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After reading Bob's updated analyses of the writing similarities between Sanders and Erdnase, I can't possibly accept that he was not the author of The Expert. There is such a vast array of similarities in the writing that to adamantly believe Sanders is not a viable candidate is to be in denial. W...
by jkeyes1000
April 29th, 2018, 9:02 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I would point out that most of the places in which you find these trade customs, they are in fact attributed to the various trade organizations that standardized them. So your statement "meant to be copied without attribution " is wrong. But again, as I've said before, and as you continua...
by jkeyes1000
April 28th, 2018, 10:26 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I recently ran across something pretty remarkable that I haven't seen mentioned before. It's from an 1996 letter, among several available online that Bill Mullins pointed me at. Sanders, at the time, was at the Montana Historical Society. We already know that Sanders’ early diaries and notebooks co...
by jkeyes1000
April 27th, 2018, 9:00 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I don't blame Chris for writing things like, "...and yes, Gallaway also wrote EATCT". Because I know that this is his opinion, his conclusion. Within the context of his eBook (or even this thread), it is clear that he is presenting a theory. He is not claiming to have positively proved it....
by jkeyes1000
April 25th, 2018, 12:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bob, I never once argued that Sanders couldn't be Erdnase. I am simply saying that it stands to reason, that Sanders was wealthier, and therefore less in need of money than Galloway.! That's not an accurate account of what happened. You predicated various arguments on Sanders having plenty of money...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 9:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I would rather style someone a "zealot" for advocating Sanders because he "could have lied about his height", or "could have fibbed about needing the money" or "could have scrambled his name into "Erdnase" because he had experimented with anagrams",...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 6:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bob Coyne wrote: "As I remember you were the one who kept arguing Erdnase couldn't be Sanders because Sanders didn't need the money. That was never my argument." Bob, I never once argued that Sanders couldn't be Erdnase. I am simply saying that it stands to reason, that Sanders was wealthi...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 4:49 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I was aware of your "hard up" argument for Sanders, Bob. But more often than not, Sanders advocates tend to suggest that he was only joking about needing the money. And besides--his "need" was likely to be less severe than someone of a lower class. The quote you offer even says ...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 1:08 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I would rather style someone a "zealot" for advocating Sanders because he "could have lied about his height", or "could have fibbed about needing the money" or "could have scrambled his name into "Erdnase" because he had experimented with anagrams",...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 11:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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This is quite in line with the modern scientific method, and ought not to be disparaged, as it makes his passionate critics seem like religious folks reviling Evolution. No critic has disparaged the modern scientific method. People who applied tests to a weak hypothesis have been criticized, badger...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 9:57 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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so he changed his position (cupped hand v straight) in a case that didn’t require him to change his position (height as basis for proving his candidate). got it. Not quite, Brad. The estimate of the height, using the hand as a measure, is subject to a margin of error, and of course, to anomaly. Chr...
by jkeyes1000
April 24th, 2018, 8:52 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I must have missed something.... can you point out a few examples? I am much too lazy to re-read this dreadfully boring thread in order to quote Chris saying that he can be wrong, but I have certainly seen it on numerous occasions. It does sound like you are rather lazy. The characterization you ma...
by jkeyes1000
April 23rd, 2018, 9:25 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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All practitioners of logic will admit that they can be wrong. I have seen Chris concede this many times. I must have missed something.... can you point out a few examples? Regarding logic, with enough time at hand, and with enough skills in rhetoric, arguing, debating, etc., I claim that you can al...
by jkeyes1000
April 23rd, 2018, 5:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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....Logic has a bad rep amongst exact scientists, because most folks do a shoddy job of it. Usually, they are not thorough enough. They rest content when they discover something they like. Don't bother to consider all sorts of possibilities that they are wrong. Dare their adversaries to find fault,...
by jkeyes1000
April 23rd, 2018, 4:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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i made it very clear why you lack a logical perspective. That it took hundreds of posts to get through to you - and i doubt i did - only makes my case. You posted that people could possibly know something they couldn’t know - and your evidence was - because. and now you enter another topic about wh...

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