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Cleared up the misunderstanding on the phone. Thanks Brad!

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We have been promised by an L & L spokesman that the sales of the books will allow them the resources to fund new and exciting projects, and that this isn't just an attempt to burn the lot before packing up the tents. Brad, You hate it when people put words in your mouth and twist around what y...

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You have to lighten up a bit Brad. Find your sense of humor and learn not to stress out about things that are out of your control.

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Eugene Burger said he would tape record himself reading instructions to an effect he was learning so he didn't have to flip through pages while trying to hold a deck of cards.

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But hey, let's check back in a year and see what L&L is doing. I look forward to seeing new great content of the likes it released in the past. Ok Brad, you've forced me to tip our hand. After the ebooks are completed we're taking a bold step and releasing all of them as audio books. We realize...

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New ebooks are now available: The Vernon Chronicles, Volume 2 http://bit.ly/Kyoxpb The Vernon Chronicles, Volume 4 http://bit.ly/JTS5Q1 Bob Wagner's Master Notebook of Magic http://bit.ly/L5p8hN (Apologies for doing the Vernon Chronicles out of order when V1 & V3 were released a couple of weeks ...

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Steve. Are these new content book/ebook projects? Brad, I don't know what Louis has planned. For the download site we've talked about different products we could include that L&L hasn't released yet, but right now the focus is just getting the ebooks completed and loaded into the site and then ...

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Why do you keep referring to Steve as "Stove"? You've done this several times now in this thread. Most likely because Steve has referred to Damian as Damien. Thanks for the heads up on the spelling error. Steve. Are these new content book/ebook projects? Brad, I don't know what Louis has ...

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And that is why they are screwed. They tried to sell the same content to the same people and those people got pissed off. Witness the backlash to L&L re-rereleasing the Vernon set. Again. The backlash was limited to The Genii Forum and this is one of our best selling DVD sets. Even on this Foru...

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Brad,

There are new projects coming up that are not Osterlind DVDs.

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We've seen this in the magic world with VHS, DVD, DVD sets with bonus discs. Do you really expect the ebook versions with fancy features to be published first, especially when customers are just happy to have the basic electronic format available at all? Using the Vernon Revelations DVD set as an e...

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A question for the L & L staff: RK mentioned that he purchased the Classic Magic of Larry Jennings, and reported that it was simple scan of the pages (and searchable). I understand that scanning would be needed for older, pre-desktop releases. Regarding more recent books. Is it safe to assume t...

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Mike,

It was mentioned at the very top of this thread that we will not be releasing the Castle Notebooks as an ebook.

We've been releasing 3 - 5 ebooks a week. Not sure what titles are coming up next.

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Question first. Can I print out an eBook? For the collectors that bought hard cover books; if they are no longer available in hard cover, wouldnt that increase the value? Carl, Our ebooks you can print. We didn't put any limitations on them. Other ebooks you may not be able to do that. The value of...

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IMHO, the key (as in most cases) is pricing. People complain all the time that Kindle ebooks cost too much in comparison with the hard copies. If they cost close to the same, I still think that many are going to choose the physical product. This is price fixing that the publisher's are doing. It's ...

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I stepped up to the plate early in this thread and voiced my displeasure. In case there's any ambiguity, let me say it again ... I don't like it!!! Mark, I understand and not too long ago felt exactly the same way you did. While I love tech stuff and have had a computer online since 1984, I'm a boo...

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Ted, I don't disagree with any of your points. You've raised questions that we too have asked ourselves and continue to. We don't have the answers and that's part of the risk of starting this product line. We can't speak for all the other magic publishers, but most probably knew this day would come....

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Brad, The reason I asked is that it's easy to make a statement that a book just sold for hundreds of dollars. I can come back in 3 months and say the book just increased in value. If I did that, you would ask for proof. So I guess we can talk about it in 3 months when you tell me it's decreased and ...

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Brad, I'd be curious to know where it was selling. This question was asked early on in the Ammar Cups & Balls Book thread and no one answered. Unfortunately The Cafe doesn't keep their posts in the Buy/Sell/Trade area beyond a couple of weeks. Past ebay auctions are searchable, going back about ...

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Brad,

Roger stated the value dropped to $0 because it was on a torrent site. I just informed him that using his logic, it dropped to $0 years ago because it's been out there for a long time. It's not propaganda - just an obvious truth.

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We've just added:

Ultra Cervon
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L.I.N.T.
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Well Kevin, as previously mentioned, your price tanked a long time ago. Of course that means every book has now tanked. Take Erdnase. The material is worthless now. The early editions of the book are probably good for doorstops. It's been reprinted so many times and available for for free as a downl...

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BTW, the Elmsley books are already up on the torrent sites (that didn't take long), so the cash value of your books is now $0. Roger, The Elmsley books that are on the Torrent sites are not the ones we just release a few hours ago. They have been up there for several years - that's right, years. So...

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The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley are now available:

Volume 1 - http://goo.gl/4OZ9c

Volume 2 - http://goo.gl/kBlNX

They are $19.95 each.

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As much as I love the idea of these classic books being reborn as ebooks, I can't help but feel that this might be a bit of a lost opportunity if the books are just scanned pdfs. That is, it sure would have been cool to have some of the books coverted to include performance/instructional video, aud...

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Richard Kaufman wrote:L&L is also scanning the pages of its books to create the pdfs.

Not all of them. Some of the more recent books were created digitally and didn't need to be scanned.

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There's nothing more to say than has already been said.

Roger is obviously not in favor of our ebooks. I'm curious if he's going to give the same grief to Kaufman & Co or Hermetic Press when they release their ebooks.

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In the top 5, there are no domains that are keyword domains. It's the 6th one. Hey, it's the top 10, so no complaints there! However in the top 10, it's the only domain name that has keywords. LandL.com has not been available for years. I don't think there is a single most important factor. It depen...

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Interesting. Most SEO experts would say that the domain is the single most important factor. If that were true, then using the search term "magic ebooks", magicebooks.com would out rank every site. But it doesn't even appear on the first page. magic-ebooks.com does appear on the first pag...

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Continuing the conversation from the Cups & Balls thread, here are some responses: What's the benefit of having a separate site? You could have gone with something that would have helped SEO, ebooksformagicians.com for example, is available. Or just llpub.com/ebooks. We wanted to keep the two si...

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Wow! Lots of posts since last night. Since this thread has gone off-topic (the original topic was off-topic for this section) and everyone is talking about ebooks, we're going to reply in the L&L ebook thread in the Buzz section. http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&am...

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EPUB is a file format, like PDF. And it is a vastly superior format for ebooks. Allowing proper formatting of actual text, as opposed to a picture of text. We addressed the formatting issue in another thread when we announced the the new site. Here's what Richard had to say when someone asked about...

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Damien, Our main site is llpub.com, pub, obviously short for publishing. We wanted to keep the brand association with the other domain name and have it an easy domain name to remember. It's really that simple. While we do own llpublishing.com, it's not the URL most people are familiar with. If it we...

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If there are any collectors who want to sell their Complete Cups & Balls book, this is an ideal time to do so. Repeating what we posted earlier, we had more requests for the book than we had inventory, so there are potential customers ready to buy now . As of this morning, the only place we coul...

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One more point to add to this is that we had more requests for books than we had books. So there are still customers out there wanting to buy the book. If they're willing to spend $150 for the book, they're probably willing to spend $175. If all they wanted was the information, they would have purch...

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Repeating what we posted earlier, these sold in just about 24 hours and only brought $3,000, less considering we pay for postage in the USA & Canada and the cost of packing materials. This is significant for a couple of reasons. The first reason is it's hardly the retirement plan Brad referred t...

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Again, it's nice to know you care about what we are doing to invest the time to write a response.

Thanks again Damien!

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Something for them to consider. Damien, Thanks again for posting a comment. It's obvious you care about what we're doing to take the time and comment in almost every L&L Publishing thread. Like a lot of other businesses we have customers who love what we do and others who do not. With the thous...

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These 20 books are now sold out!

Thank you to everyone who made a purchase.

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Hi Roger, Thanks for the comments. Nothing was obfuscated. All of Brad's questions were answered to the best of my ability. He specifically asked if these books were known to exist and held back or just found. He received an honest answer, which is "I don't know". But I didn't ignore Brad ...

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